2008 Route Cuts / Changes etc.: Check here for updates (consolidated)
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2008 Route Cuts / Changes etc.: Check here for updates (consolidated)
Routes Discontinues between 01NOV08 and 03NOV08
Dallas-Flint
Dallas-Harrisburg
Dallas-Nassau
Dallas-Rochester
Dallas-San Salvador
Dallas-Syracuse
LaGuardia-Boston
LaGuardia-Cincinnati
LaGuardia-Charlotte
LaGuardia-Cleveland
LaGuardia-Louisville
LaGuardia-Memphis
LaGuardia-Pittsburgh
LaGuardia-Washington Reagan
Los Angeles-San Luis Obispo
Miami-Barranquilla
O'Hare-Albany
O'Hare-Baton Rouge
O'Hare-Biloxi/Gulfport
O'Hare-Birmingham
O'Hare-Dayton
O'Hare-Fort Walton Beach
O'Hare-Greer, S.C.
O'Hare-Harrisburg
O'Hare-Jackson, Miss.
O'Hare-Lexington
O'Hare-Mobile
O'Hare-Pensacola
O'Hare-Portland, Ore.
O'Hare-Providence
Raleigh-Jacksonville
Raleigh-Kansas City
Raleigh-Louisville
Raleigh-Newark
St. Louis-Baltimore
St. Louis-Columbus
St. Louis-JFK
St. Louis-Orange County
Other changes at the start of November
*Dallas-Buenos Aires, daily 777 seasonal service on 02NOV08
*Dallas-Sao Paulo, daily 777 year-round service on 02NOV08
*Los Angeles-El Paso, new service starting 02NOV08; daily ERJ-140
*Miami-Antigua launch moved forward to 02NOV08.
*Miami-Grenada launch moved forward to 02NOV08.
*Miami-Heathrow will now have a second daily operating on Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays.
*Miami-Madrid, daily 777 year-round service on 02NOV08
*Miami-Santiago de Chile, daily 777 seasonal service on 02NOV08.
*Miami-Sao Paulo 3x daily 777 service on 02NOV08.
*Miami-Sao Paulo, fourth daily peak seasonal flight 20DEC08-29JAN09.
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UPDATED JUNE 4 2008: SDQ-SXM
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I will continue to update this list as possible with upcoming route changes.
NOTE: Airline reservation systems are only updates once a week, early Saturday mornings (1AM-4AM EST). There is no sense in trying to change your reservations for flight cuts announce during the week until Saturday, because reservation systems will not have the changes loaded.
-----DISCONTINUED SERVICE-------------
31MAY08:
Fort Lauderdale-Santo Domingo
LaGuardia-Minneapolis
02JUL08:
Dallas Love-Austin (American Eagle/MQ)
Dallas Love-Kansas City (American Eagle/MQ)
JFK-London/STN
03SEP08:
Austin-Orange County
Austin-Raleigh
Austin-Seattle
Boston-San Diego
Chicago-Buenos Aires
Dallas-Oakland
LaGuardia-Raleigh (will still be flown by American Eagle)
Los Angeles-Fort Lauderdale
Los Angeles-San Antonio
San Juan-Antigua (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-Aruba (America Eagle/Executive)
San Juan-Baltimore
San Juan-Fort Lauderdale
San Juan-Los Angeles
San Juan-Orlando
San Juan-St. Maarten (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-St. Thomas (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-Samana, DR (American Eagle/Executive)
San Juan-Santo Domingo (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-Washington Dulles
St. Louis-Raleigh (will still be flown by AmericanConnection)
St. Louis-San Antonio (will still be flown by AmericanConnection)
Santo Domingo-St. Maarten
Washington/Reagan-Fayetteville, AK (American Eagle/MQ)
05JAN09:
Chicago-Honolulu
--------NEW SERVICE---------------
01JUN08
Chicago-Wausau, Wisconsin (American Eagle/MQ)
Dallas-Buffalo (American Eagle/MQ; seasonal through 03SEP08)
Fort Lauderdale-Kingston
02JUN08
Chicago-Moscow/Domodedovo
07JUL08
LaGuardia-Cedar Rapids (American Eagle/MQ)
Chicago-Dallas Love Field (American Eagle/MQ)
20NOV08
Miami-Antigua
Miami-Grenada
07APR09
Chicago-Beijing
-----WINTER 2008/09 SKI SERVICE--------------
Note: Routes are 18Dec08 through 06Apr09 unless noted.
Chicago-Jackson Hole
Chicago-Steamboat Springs
Chicago-Vail/Eagle
Dallas-Gunninson
Dallas-Jackon Hole (12Jun08 through 30Sep08; 18Dec08 through 06Apr09)
Dallas-Montrose (12Jun08 through 06Apr09)
Dallas-Steamboat Springs
Dallas-Vail/Eagle (12Jun08 through 06Apr09)
LaGuardia-Vail/Eagle (20Dec08 through 04Apr09)
Los Angeles-Vail/Eagle
Miami-Vail/Eagle (20Dec08 through 05Apr09)
Newark-Vail/Eagle
---------REDUCED EUROPEAN FREQUENCIES (unconfirmed)--------
Expect the following reduced service on European routes from Chicago and JFK. European service from Dallas and Miami will not change.
Chicago-Dublin will not operate on Mondays, Wednesdays
Chicago-Manchester will not operate on Mondays, Wednesdays
Chicago-Rome will be suspended between November 2008 and April 2009.
JFK-Barcelona will not operate on Tuesdays
JFK-Milan will not operates on Mondays, Wednesdays
JFK-Rome will not operate on Tuesdays, Thursdays
JFK-Paris (AA 120 only) will not operate on Mondays, Wednesdays
Dallas-Flint
Dallas-Harrisburg
Dallas-Nassau
Dallas-Rochester
Dallas-San Salvador
Dallas-Syracuse
LaGuardia-Boston
LaGuardia-Cincinnati
LaGuardia-Charlotte
LaGuardia-Cleveland
LaGuardia-Louisville
LaGuardia-Memphis
LaGuardia-Pittsburgh
LaGuardia-Washington Reagan
Los Angeles-San Luis Obispo
Miami-Barranquilla
O'Hare-Albany
O'Hare-Baton Rouge
O'Hare-Biloxi/Gulfport
O'Hare-Birmingham
O'Hare-Dayton
O'Hare-Fort Walton Beach
O'Hare-Greer, S.C.
O'Hare-Harrisburg
O'Hare-Jackson, Miss.
O'Hare-Lexington
O'Hare-Mobile
O'Hare-Pensacola
O'Hare-Portland, Ore.
O'Hare-Providence
Raleigh-Jacksonville
Raleigh-Kansas City
Raleigh-Louisville
Raleigh-Newark
St. Louis-Baltimore
St. Louis-Columbus
St. Louis-JFK
St. Louis-Orange County
Other changes at the start of November
*Dallas-Buenos Aires, daily 777 seasonal service on 02NOV08
*Dallas-Sao Paulo, daily 777 year-round service on 02NOV08
*Los Angeles-El Paso, new service starting 02NOV08; daily ERJ-140
*Miami-Antigua launch moved forward to 02NOV08.
*Miami-Grenada launch moved forward to 02NOV08.
*Miami-Heathrow will now have a second daily operating on Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays.
*Miami-Madrid, daily 777 year-round service on 02NOV08
*Miami-Santiago de Chile, daily 777 seasonal service on 02NOV08.
*Miami-Sao Paulo 3x daily 777 service on 02NOV08.
*Miami-Sao Paulo, fourth daily peak seasonal flight 20DEC08-29JAN09.
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UPDATED JUNE 4 2008: SDQ-SXM
---------------------------
I will continue to update this list as possible with upcoming route changes.
NOTE: Airline reservation systems are only updates once a week, early Saturday mornings (1AM-4AM EST). There is no sense in trying to change your reservations for flight cuts announce during the week until Saturday, because reservation systems will not have the changes loaded.
-----DISCONTINUED SERVICE-------------
31MAY08:
Fort Lauderdale-Santo Domingo
LaGuardia-Minneapolis
02JUL08:
Dallas Love-Austin (American Eagle/MQ)
Dallas Love-Kansas City (American Eagle/MQ)
JFK-London/STN
03SEP08:
Austin-Orange County
Austin-Raleigh
Austin-Seattle
Boston-San Diego
Chicago-Buenos Aires
Dallas-Oakland
LaGuardia-Raleigh (will still be flown by American Eagle)
Los Angeles-Fort Lauderdale
Los Angeles-San Antonio
San Juan-Antigua (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-Aruba (America Eagle/Executive)
San Juan-Baltimore
San Juan-Fort Lauderdale
San Juan-Los Angeles
San Juan-Orlando
San Juan-St. Maarten (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-St. Thomas (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-Samana, DR (American Eagle/Executive)
San Juan-Santo Domingo (will still be flown by American Eagle)
San Juan-Washington Dulles
St. Louis-Raleigh (will still be flown by AmericanConnection)
St. Louis-San Antonio (will still be flown by AmericanConnection)
Santo Domingo-St. Maarten
Washington/Reagan-Fayetteville, AK (American Eagle/MQ)
05JAN09:
Chicago-Honolulu
--------NEW SERVICE---------------
01JUN08
Chicago-Wausau, Wisconsin (American Eagle/MQ)
Dallas-Buffalo (American Eagle/MQ; seasonal through 03SEP08)
Fort Lauderdale-Kingston
02JUN08
Chicago-Moscow/Domodedovo
07JUL08
LaGuardia-Cedar Rapids (American Eagle/MQ)
Chicago-Dallas Love Field (American Eagle/MQ)
20NOV08
Miami-Antigua
Miami-Grenada
07APR09
Chicago-Beijing
-----WINTER 2008/09 SKI SERVICE--------------
Note: Routes are 18Dec08 through 06Apr09 unless noted.
Chicago-Jackson Hole
Chicago-Steamboat Springs
Chicago-Vail/Eagle
Dallas-Gunninson
Dallas-Jackon Hole (12Jun08 through 30Sep08; 18Dec08 through 06Apr09)
Dallas-Montrose (12Jun08 through 06Apr09)
Dallas-Steamboat Springs
Dallas-Vail/Eagle (12Jun08 through 06Apr09)
LaGuardia-Vail/Eagle (20Dec08 through 04Apr09)
Los Angeles-Vail/Eagle
Miami-Vail/Eagle (20Dec08 through 05Apr09)
Newark-Vail/Eagle
---------REDUCED EUROPEAN FREQUENCIES (unconfirmed)--------
Expect the following reduced service on European routes from Chicago and JFK. European service from Dallas and Miami will not change.
Chicago-Dublin will not operate on Mondays, Wednesdays
Chicago-Manchester will not operate on Mondays, Wednesdays
Chicago-Rome will be suspended between November 2008 and April 2009.
JFK-Barcelona will not operate on Tuesdays
JFK-Milan will not operates on Mondays, Wednesdays
JFK-Rome will not operate on Tuesdays, Thursdays
JFK-Paris (AA 120 only) will not operate on Mondays, Wednesdays
Last edited by MAH4546; Jun 29, 2008 at 9:06 pm
#2
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I'm none too pleased to see the ORD-EZE on the list. This route is fairly new, and I'm surprised it wasn't a profitable route for AA.
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I don't like it either, but we noticed the a/c were not full on our recent (May 13 & May 19) trip to / from EZE out of ORD. We selected ORD particularly because there was a ton of "C" availability and a reasonable V fare, and we speculated about the ability of AA to continue this flight without a valuable cargo load. It looks like our questions have been answered.
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MAH4546 has agreed to assume responsibility for editing updates into the OP - IMO think a capital idea. The route cuts discussed in the lengthly consolidated AMR-huge domestic fleet capacity reduction, $15 fee first checked bag... (consol) are getting lost in the now 17-40 page thread (depending on how member shave their defaults set.)
This thread is slightly retitled and made a consolidated thread, linked to in the Unofficial Users' Guide sticky.
A tip of the FlyerTalk baseball cap to MAH4546!
-JDiver, Moderator
This thread is slightly retitled and made a consolidated thread, linked to in the Unofficial Users' Guide sticky.
A tip of the FlyerTalk baseball cap to MAH4546!
-JDiver, Moderator
Last edited by JDiver; May 27, 2008 at 3:51 pm
#5
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ORD-HNL ? Wow, that has been around for a long time...
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I guess it's back to DFW connections.
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I've got a pair of award tix on ORD-EZE for 12/29... I'd better give AA a call ASAP. Thanks for the heads up!
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While I'm not thrilled about losing (I almost feel like writing "loosing", considering how often I see that seplling here ) the route, I'm not sure too many in AA management, morons or not, are losing much sleep over the diminished AAward availability. Airlines fly routes to make money on the paying customers, not the free seats. Of course they want to keep AAward availability at a level where good customers can occasionally fly using miles, but I think it would be an even greater "moron" who kept a route going just because it made freebies easier. The planes, as MAH4546 says, are needed elsewhere.
Last edited by Ajohn; May 27, 2008 at 4:06 pm Reason: typo
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Are the routes listed in post #1 all being eliminated entirely, or are some of them just reduced frequency?
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Also don't forget that AS has increased capacity in the islands recently, so this should help out with seats to the islands. This isn't as ideal as AA metal, but its still better than having to fly a non-AA partner
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1) Routes being eliminated entirely.
2) Routes which mainline is ending, but will still be served by Eagle/Connection.
3) Routes which Eagle/Connection is ending, but will still be served by mainline.
4) New routes.
No frequency reductions are listed.
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Ahh, I didn't think of it that way. I was thinking of 763s replacing MD80s where lots of frequency & volume exists today (e.g. ORD-LAX). While I wouldn't be surprised to see that in limited quantities, your suggestion might make more sense.
Last edited by aamilesslave; May 27, 2008 at 5:02 pm
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Initial Capacity Reductions Announced
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080527/latu524.html?.v=10
Press Release Source: American Airlines
AMR Corporation Announces Initial Round of Capacity Reductions
Tuesday May 27, 4:50 pm ET
Skyrocketing Fuel Costs and Softening Economy Drive Changes
FORT WORTH, Texas, May 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AMR Corp. (NYSE: AMR - News) today announced the first round of reductions to its flight schedule as part of its previously announced plans to reduce capacity in an effort to significantly reduce costs and create a more sustainable supply-and-demand balance in the market. The actions come in the face of skyrocketing fuel prices and a softening economy.
The initial changes to the flight schedule include, but are not limited to:
-- Discontinuing its Chicago - Buenos Aires service effective Sept. 3.
-- Discontinuing its Chicago - Honolulu service Jan. 5, 2009. Between
September 3, 2008, and Jan. 5, 2009, American will operate
Chicago - Honolulu service only on peak demand days.
-- Discontinuing its Boston - San Diego service effective Sept. 3.
-- Restructuring American and American Eagle operations at San Juan,
Puerto Rico beginning in September. This round of reductions will
affect American and American Eagle flights originating from San Juan to
the United States and various islands in the Caribbean.
Customers impacted by the schedule changes will be contacted starting next week and re-accommodated on alternative flights.
In the coming weeks, AMR will continue to make additional schedule reductions in other markets and will assess the location- and route-specific impacts of those changes. This will be done to achieve plans to reduce AMR's fourth quarter mainline domestic capacity by 11 percent to 12 percent compared to 2007 levels and its fourth quarter regional affiliate capacity by 10 percent to 11 percent compared to 2007. Fourth quarter consolidated system capacity is expected to decline 7 percent to 8 percent year over year, including the capacity reductions that were announced earlier this year.
To effect these changes, AMR plans to retire 40-45 mainline aircraft (mostly MD-80s and some Airbus A300s) and 35-40 regional jets. In an effort to significantly reduce costs, American Eagle also will retire its Saab fleet by the end of the year.
Press Release Source: American Airlines
AMR Corporation Announces Initial Round of Capacity Reductions
Tuesday May 27, 4:50 pm ET
Skyrocketing Fuel Costs and Softening Economy Drive Changes
FORT WORTH, Texas, May 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- AMR Corp. (NYSE: AMR - News) today announced the first round of reductions to its flight schedule as part of its previously announced plans to reduce capacity in an effort to significantly reduce costs and create a more sustainable supply-and-demand balance in the market. The actions come in the face of skyrocketing fuel prices and a softening economy.
The initial changes to the flight schedule include, but are not limited to:
-- Discontinuing its Chicago - Buenos Aires service effective Sept. 3.
-- Discontinuing its Chicago - Honolulu service Jan. 5, 2009. Between
September 3, 2008, and Jan. 5, 2009, American will operate
Chicago - Honolulu service only on peak demand days.
-- Discontinuing its Boston - San Diego service effective Sept. 3.
-- Restructuring American and American Eagle operations at San Juan,
Puerto Rico beginning in September. This round of reductions will
affect American and American Eagle flights originating from San Juan to
the United States and various islands in the Caribbean.
Customers impacted by the schedule changes will be contacted starting next week and re-accommodated on alternative flights.
In the coming weeks, AMR will continue to make additional schedule reductions in other markets and will assess the location- and route-specific impacts of those changes. This will be done to achieve plans to reduce AMR's fourth quarter mainline domestic capacity by 11 percent to 12 percent compared to 2007 levels and its fourth quarter regional affiliate capacity by 10 percent to 11 percent compared to 2007. Fourth quarter consolidated system capacity is expected to decline 7 percent to 8 percent year over year, including the capacity reductions that were announced earlier this year.
To effect these changes, AMR plans to retire 40-45 mainline aircraft (mostly MD-80s and some Airbus A300s) and 35-40 regional jets. In an effort to significantly reduce costs, American Eagle also will retire its Saab fleet by the end of the year.