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Old Jul 19, 2006, 12:51 pm
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AA 777 Service LAX - MIA & Returns Sep 6 2006

I have an upcoming Los Angeles - Montevideo itinerary booked, with the connect in Miami. I was checking my upcoming itineraries on the AA web site and saw that the LAX - MIA segment on the outbound and the MIA - LAX segment on the return have been changed from 763 and 757 service to 777's. Looking at the AA schedule, it appears that AA has added a midday 777 from LAX - MIA starting on September 6 and also, the first flight of the day MIA - LAX beginning on that date will be 777's. Certainly a better ride than via the present 738, 757, and 763's on the route!
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 12:55 pm
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Great news! I'll have to book some trips on that one.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 1:04 pm
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Old news.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 1:36 pm
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Yes, it is old news but I don't think anybody has solved the 2 or 3 class question and whether elites can reserve J seats for economy fares.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 1:50 pm
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Yes, it is old news but I don't think anybody has solved the 2 or 3 class question and whether elites can reserve J seats for economy fares.
I'm reasonably certain it will be sold as two class.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 2:31 pm
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I'm reasonably certain it will be sold as two class.
I thought the reason AA brought this flight back was due to their perception that there was enough premium traffic on this route to justify a three cabin flight.
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 2:35 pm
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO
I thought the reason AA brought this flight back was due to their perception that there was enough premium traffic on this route to justify a three cabin flight.
Where was this discussed?
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Old Jul 19, 2006, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO
I thought the reason AA brought this flight back was due to their perception that there was enough premium traffic on this route to justify a three cabin flight.

If they really thought there was that kind of demand, they'd have brought in more flights than just this one, I have a feeling it has to do with cycling 777s through the system so they have the most flying time and least idle time.
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Old Jul 20, 2006, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO
I thought the reason AA brought this flight back was due to their perception that there was enough premium traffic on this route to justify a three cabin flight.
It was brought on the route because they had a 777 sitting in Miami all day. Originally it was in SABRE as 3-class, not sure if it still is. There probably is enough demand to sell it as 3-class.
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Old Jul 20, 2006, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by MAH4546
It was brought on the route because they had a 777 sitting in Miami all day. Originally it was in SABRE as 3-class, not sure if it still is. There probably is enough demand to sell it as 3-class.
Please explain me about AA was brought on the 777 come from?
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Old Jul 20, 2006, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by MAH4546
It was brought on the route because they had a 777 sitting in Miami all day. Originally it was in SABRE as 3-class, not sure if it still is. There probably is enough demand to sell it as 3-class.

Recently, AA doesn't seem to like combining routes as two and three class routes, with only two currently in the system. Maybe they figure that in the case of irregular opps or something it will be a PITA to tell F pax that they are now going to be flying on a 757 instead of their original 777, because I'm guessing there are a lot more people out there willing to pay $4k for the latter, but fewer for the former.

What I do think is foolish on all these routes using a 762 or 777 as a 2-class plane is not making the J section F (as it is still better than any other domestic F besides the 763), with the true F seats only available to full-fares and PLT/EXP, or something like that, the way US does with their int'l A330s.
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Old Jul 20, 2006, 11:20 am
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just tried booking a J seat on this flight .. came back with First only.

appears 2 class domestic service (as of now!).
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Old Jul 20, 2006, 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by Fly AA J all the way
What I do think is foolish on all these routes using a 762 or 777 as a 2-class plane is not making the J section F (as it is still better than any other domestic F besides the 763), with the true F seats only available to full-fares and PLT/EXP, or something like that, the way US does with their int'l A330s.
I suspect the logic is that F passengers expect to be first class passengers. AA would rather award its elite customers with a J seat for the price of Y than try to convince their F passengers that the J cabin really is the F cabin.

And tell me what US is doing. They don't have any three class planes, do they?
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Old Jul 20, 2006, 11:26 am
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LAX-MIA & v.v. widebody schedule eff 6SEP06:
Code:
LAX-MIA
AA 1520 1155 1945   777
AA  252 1340 2135   763
MIA-LAX
AA  383 0825 1040 777
AA  283 1120 1345 763
Flights to avoid in first (at all cost, IMHO), i.e. on 757:
Code:
LAX-MIA
AA  898 0700 1500   757
AA  280 0910 1710   757
AA 1220 0605 1655   757
AA  234 2235 0625‡1 757
AA  276 2345 0735‡1 757
MIA-LAX
AA  297 1415 1640 757
AA  267 1605 1835 757
AA  823 1815 2045 757
AA  545 1340 1855 757
AA  207 2010 2240 757
Other flight
Code:
MIA-LAX
AA 2431 61000 1355 738
The 777 is sold as only two class, but they attached the wrong seat map to these flights (as it often happens). Expect to see them being updated whenever they catch up to their mistake to reflect rows 9-13 in the economy-fare cabin (usually blocked as premium seats avaialable for pre-assignment only to elites and full-fare passengers).
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Old Jul 20, 2006, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by Fly AA J all the way
What I do think is foolish on all these routes using a 762 or 777 as a 2-class plane is not making the J section F (as it is still better than any other domestic F besides the 763), with the true F seats only available to full-fares and PLT/EXP, or something like that, the way US does with their int'l A330s.
My guess is that there isn't enough demand to sell the 30/35 J seats as domestic First class, they'd rather sell them as coach. They could always op-up people, but then that just increases costs because they need more FAs to do the service.
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And tell me what US is doing. They don't have any three class planes, do they?
Yes, their A330s are 3-class, with one row (6 seats?) of fully-flat seats, coffin-style. They haven't sold it as F in several years, but I believe certain pax (top elites, full fare?) can get assigned those seats.

This is also no different than CX using a 747 on a 2-class route and either 1) closing off the F cabin entirely, or 2) reserving it for Diamonds only.
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