*A First Class Routes Thread
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*A First Class Routes Thread
With the continual reduction in routes offering first class, it may be helpful to have a listing of routes which still have it. This may help some decide between business or first for awards, rtws, etc; as well as assist in route planning.
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Intercontinental and Transcontinental
Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).
Names used for First Class
First Class - CA, LH, LX, NH, OZ, SQ, UA
Royal First Class - TG
Suites - SQ (A380 only)
Only shorthaul/domestic first class on - US
No first class on - AC, BD, JP, LO, MS, NZ, OS, OU, SA, SK, TK, TP
Air China
Aircraft type
Only 747 (744 and 74E configs), 767 (763 config), 777 (777 and 77W config but not 772 config), A340.
Routes
Between Beijing and
Frankfurt
Guangzhou
Houston
London Heathrow
Los Angeles
Milan
Moscow SVO
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco
Stockholm
[missing lots]
ANA
Aircraft type
Only international configured 747 and 777 variants (not domestic configurations).
Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Frankfurt
Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Houston
London Heathrow
Los Angeles
New York JFK
Paris
San Francisco
Asiana
OZ F routes
Aircraft type
A380.
All 747 variants.
Some 777.
Routes
Between Seoul ICN and
Frankfurt
Los Angeles
New York JFK (seasonal)
note that Sydney has seasonal A380 but without first service on this route
Lufthansa
Aircraft type
All 747 variants, A330-300, A340-300 (340 and 34P configurations but not 34V), A340-600 (some only), A380-800.
Routes
Between Frankfurt and
Abu Dhabi
Accra
Almaty
Astana
Atlanta (seasonal)
Bahrain
Bangalore
Bangkok
Beijing
Boston
Buenos Aires
Cairo
Calgary (seasonal)
Capetown (seasonal route)
Caracas
Chennai
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi
Denver
Detroit
Guangzhou
Ho Chi Minh City
Hong Kong
Houston
Jakarta
Johannesburg
Kolkata
Kuala Lumpur
Los Angeles
Mexico City
Miami
Mumbai
Nagoya
Nanking
New York JFK
New York Newark
Orlando
Osaka
Philadelphia (seasonal)
San Francisco
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Seoul
Shanghai
Singapore
Tokyo
Toronto (seasonal?)
Vancouver (seasonal)
Washington Dulles
Between Munich and
Beijing
Boston
Busan (via Seoul)
Charlotte
Chicago
Delhi
Dubai
Hong Kong
Los Angeles
Newark
New York JFK
Montreal
San Francisco
Sao Paulo
Seoul
Shanghai
Singapore
Tel Aviv
Tokyo
Between Dusseldorf and
Chicago
Miami
New York Newark
Toronto (seasonal)
Between Bangkok and
Ho Chi Minh City
Kuala Lumpur
Between Singapore and
Jakarta
Singapore Airlines
Aircraft type
All 773, 77W and A380; and some 772 (few & on regional routes only)
Routes
Between Singapore and
Auckland
Bangalore
Barcelona (via Milan & direct)
Beijing
Chennai
Colombo
Delhi
Dubai
Frankfurt
Hong Kong
Houston (via Moscow)
Hyderabad
Jakarta
Karachi (via Lahore)
Lahore
London
Los Angeles
Manchester (via Munich)
Manila
Melbourne
Milan
Moscow
Mumbai
Munich
New York JFK (via Frankfurt)
Paris
San Francisco
Seoul
Shanghai
Sydney
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Zurich
Between Frankfurt and
New York JFK
Between Hong Kong and
San Francisco
Between Munich and
Manchester
Between Seoul and
Los Angeles
Between Tokyo NRT and
Los Angeles
Swiss
Aircraft type
A332, A333 and A343.
Routes
Between Geneva and
New York JFK
Between Zurich and
Bangkok
Boston
Cairo
Chicago
Dar Es Salaam
Delhi
Dubai
Hong Kong
Jeddah
Johannesburg
Los Angeles
Miami
Montreal
Mumbai
Muscat
Nairobi
New York JFK
Riyadh
San Francisco
Sao Paulo
Shanghai
Singapore
Tokyo
Between Dubai and
Muscat
Between Nairobi and
Dar Es Salaam
Thai
Aircraft type
747, A340.
Routes
thread
Between Bangkok and
Beijing (747)
Brisbane (A340)
Dubai (A340)
Frankfurt (747)
Hong Kong (747)
London (747)
Madrid [via Rome] (747)
Madrid (747)
Munich (340)
Paris (747)
Rome (747)
Shanghai (seasonal)
Sydney (A340)
Tokyo (340 + 747)
Zurich (340)
United
Aircraft type
747, 772ER, 763 and ps configured 757.
Routes
Between Los Angeles and
Bangkok
Chicago
Hong Kong
London Heathrow
Melbourne
New York JFK
Seoul ICN
Shanghai
Sydney
Taipei
Tokyo NRT
Washington Dulles
Between San Francisco and
Bangkok
Beijing
Chicago
Frankfurt
Ho Chi Minh City
Hong Kong
London Heathrow
Melbourne
New York JFK
Osaka KIX
Paris
Seoul ICN
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Taipei
Tokyo
Washington Dulles
Between Honolulu and
Bangkok
Hong Kong
Osaka KIX
Seoul ICN
Singapore
Taipei
Tokyo NRT
Between Seattle and
Bangkok
Hong Kong
Seoul ICN
Singapore
Taipei
Tokyo NRT
Between Chicago and
Amsterdam
Bangkok
Beijing
Brussels
Frankfurt
Ho Chi Minh City
Hong Kong
London Heathrow
Munich
Osaka KIX
Paris
Sao Paulo
Seoul
Shanghai
Singapore
Taipei
Tokyo NRT
Between Washington Dulles and
Amsterdam
Beijing
Brussels
Buenos Aires
Dubai
Frankfurt
Geneva
Kuwait
London Heathrow
Moscow DME
Munich
Paris (ends September 2011)
Rio De Janiero
Rome
Sao Paulo
Tokyo NRT
Zurich
Between New York JFK and
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Between Newark and
Brussels
Zurich
Between Tokyo NRT and
Seoul ICN
Singapore
This listing is badly out of date. Updated to post #192 .
Please advise any errors or omissions. Thanks to all those who have contributed.
Watch out for codeshares and some routes have multiple aircraft types operating (with and without first class).
Names used for First Class
First Class - CA, LH, LX, NH, OZ, SQ, UA
Royal First Class - TG
Suites - SQ (A380 only)
Only shorthaul/domestic first class on - US
No first class on - AC, BD, JP, LO, MS, NZ, OS, OU, SA, SK, TK, TP
Air China
Aircraft type
Only 747 (744 and 74E configs), 767 (763 config), 777 (777 and 77W config but not 772 config), A340.
Routes
Between Beijing and
Frankfurt
Guangzhou
Houston
London Heathrow
Los Angeles
Milan
Moscow SVO
New York JFK
Paris CDG
San Francisco
Stockholm
[missing lots]
ANA
Aircraft type
Only international configured 747 and 777 variants (not domestic configurations).
Routes
Between Tokyo Haneda and
Frankfurt
Between Tokyo Narita and
Chicago
Houston
London Heathrow
Los Angeles
New York JFK
Paris
San Francisco
Asiana
OZ F routes
Aircraft type
A380.
All 747 variants.
Some 777.
Routes
Between Seoul ICN and
Frankfurt
Los Angeles
New York JFK (seasonal)
note that Sydney has seasonal A380 but without first service on this route
Lufthansa
Aircraft type
All 747 variants, A330-300, A340-300 (340 and 34P configurations but not 34V), A340-600 (some only), A380-800.
Routes
Between Frankfurt and
Abu Dhabi
Accra
Almaty
Astana
Atlanta (seasonal)
Bahrain
Bangalore
Bangkok
Beijing
Boston
Buenos Aires
Cairo
Calgary (seasonal)
Capetown (seasonal route)
Caracas
Chennai
Chicago
Dallas
Delhi
Denver
Detroit
Guangzhou
Ho Chi Minh City
Hong Kong
Houston
Jakarta
Johannesburg
Kolkata
Kuala Lumpur
Los Angeles
Mexico City
Miami
Mumbai
Nagoya
Nanking
New York JFK
New York Newark
Orlando
Osaka
Philadelphia (seasonal)
San Francisco
Sao Paulo
Seattle
Seoul
Shanghai
Singapore
Tokyo
Toronto (seasonal?)
Vancouver (seasonal)
Washington Dulles
Between Munich and
Beijing
Boston
Busan (via Seoul)
Charlotte
Chicago
Delhi
Dubai
Hong Kong
Los Angeles
Newark
New York JFK
Montreal
San Francisco
Sao Paulo
Seoul
Shanghai
Singapore
Tel Aviv
Tokyo
Between Dusseldorf and
Chicago
Miami
New York Newark
Toronto (seasonal)
Between Bangkok and
Ho Chi Minh City
Kuala Lumpur
Between Singapore and
Jakarta
Singapore Airlines
Aircraft type
All 773, 77W and A380; and some 772 (few & on regional routes only)
Routes
Between Singapore and
Auckland
Bangalore
Barcelona (via Milan & direct)
Beijing
Chennai
Colombo
Delhi
Dubai
Frankfurt
Hong Kong
Houston (via Moscow)
Hyderabad
Jakarta
Karachi (via Lahore)
Lahore
London
Los Angeles
Manchester (via Munich)
Manila
Melbourne
Milan
Moscow
Mumbai
Munich
New York JFK (via Frankfurt)
Paris
San Francisco
Seoul
Shanghai
Sydney
Tokyo HND
Tokyo NRT
Zurich
Between Frankfurt and
New York JFK
Between Hong Kong and
San Francisco
Between Munich and
Manchester
Between Seoul and
Los Angeles
Between Tokyo NRT and
Los Angeles
Swiss
Aircraft type
A332, A333 and A343.
Routes
Between Geneva and
New York JFK
Between Zurich and
Bangkok
Boston
Cairo
Chicago
Dar Es Salaam
Delhi
Dubai
Hong Kong
Jeddah
Johannesburg
Los Angeles
Miami
Montreal
Mumbai
Muscat
Nairobi
New York JFK
Riyadh
San Francisco
Sao Paulo
Shanghai
Singapore
Tokyo
Between Dubai and
Muscat
Between Nairobi and
Dar Es Salaam
Thai
Aircraft type
747, A340.
Routes
thread
Between Bangkok and
Beijing (747)
Brisbane (A340)
Dubai (A340)
Frankfurt (747)
Hong Kong (747)
London (747)
Madrid [via Rome] (747)
Madrid (747)
Munich (340)
Paris (747)
Rome (747)
Shanghai (seasonal)
Sydney (A340)
Tokyo (340 + 747)
Zurich (340)
United
Aircraft type
747, 772ER, 763 and ps configured 757.
Routes
Between Los Angeles and
Bangkok
Chicago
Hong Kong
London Heathrow
Melbourne
New York JFK
Seoul ICN
Shanghai
Sydney
Taipei
Tokyo NRT
Washington Dulles
Between San Francisco and
Bangkok
Beijing
Chicago
Frankfurt
Ho Chi Minh City
Hong Kong
London Heathrow
Melbourne
New York JFK
Osaka KIX
Paris
Seoul ICN
Shanghai
Singapore
Sydney
Taipei
Tokyo
Washington Dulles
Between Honolulu and
Bangkok
Hong Kong
Osaka KIX
Seoul ICN
Singapore
Taipei
Tokyo NRT
Between Seattle and
Bangkok
Hong Kong
Seoul ICN
Singapore
Taipei
Tokyo NRT
Between Chicago and
Amsterdam
Bangkok
Beijing
Brussels
Frankfurt
Ho Chi Minh City
Hong Kong
London Heathrow
Munich
Osaka KIX
Paris
Sao Paulo
Seoul
Shanghai
Singapore
Taipei
Tokyo NRT
Between Washington Dulles and
Amsterdam
Beijing
Brussels
Buenos Aires
Dubai
Frankfurt
Geneva
Kuwait
London Heathrow
Moscow DME
Munich
Paris (ends September 2011)
Rio De Janiero
Rome
Sao Paulo
Tokyo NRT
Zurich
Between New York JFK and
Los Angeles
San Francisco
Between Newark and
Brussels
Zurich
Between Tokyo NRT and
Seoul ICN
Singapore
This listing is badly out of date. Updated to post #192 .
Please advise any errors or omissions. Thanks to all those who have contributed.
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Last edited by Kiwi Flyer; Jul 21, 2017 at 7:06 pm
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Great Idea Kiwi Flyer, This would be very helpful for people like myself with little experience on some of the *A airlines routes when planing an FRWSTAR trip.
Cheers
Cheers
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Location: SYD
Posts: 3,043
Singapore Airlines:
Between Singapore and:
Auckland
Bandar Seri Begawan
Bangalore
Bangkok
Beijing
Cairo (via Dubai)
Colombo
Dubai
Frankfurt
Hong Kong
Hyderabad
Istanbul (via Dubai)
Jakarta
Karachi (via Lahore)
Kuala Lumpur (well, technically )
Lahore
London
Los Angeles (via Tokyo)
Manchester (via Zurich)
Melbourne
Moscow (via Dubai)
Mumbai
Nagoya
New York JFK (via Frankfurt)
Paris
San Francisco (via Hong Kong)
Seoul
Shanghai
Sydney
Taipei
Tokyo
Zurich
Between Dubai and:
Cairo
Istanbul
Moscow
Between Frankfurt and:
New York JFK
Between Hong Kong and:
San Francisco
Between Tokyo and:
Los Angeles
Between Zurich and:
Manchester
Not sure whether the flight between Karachi and Lahore can be booked in its own right.
Between Singapore and:
Auckland
Bandar Seri Begawan
Bangalore
Bangkok
Beijing
Cairo (via Dubai)
Colombo
Dubai
Frankfurt
Hong Kong
Hyderabad
Istanbul (via Dubai)
Jakarta
Karachi (via Lahore)
Kuala Lumpur (well, technically )
Lahore
London
Los Angeles (via Tokyo)
Manchester (via Zurich)
Melbourne
Moscow (via Dubai)
Mumbai
Nagoya
New York JFK (via Frankfurt)
Paris
San Francisco (via Hong Kong)
Seoul
Shanghai
Sydney
Taipei
Tokyo
Zurich
Between Dubai and:
Cairo
Istanbul
Moscow
Between Frankfurt and:
New York JFK
Between Hong Kong and:
San Francisco
Between Tokyo and:
Los Angeles
Between Zurich and:
Manchester
Not sure whether the flight between Karachi and Lahore can be booked in its own right.
Last edited by Keith009; May 18, 2006 at 7:40 am
#12
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: FRA
Programs: AC SE 1MM, UA 1K, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Marriott Gold Elite, Hertz PC
Posts: 2,933
You might want to delete US Airways from the list, although the A330s still have the First Class seats installed, they are sold as Envoy Class and open to full fare business class passengers or their highest status members.
They still have the domestic First Class of course, but I thought this thread was focussing on the "real" First Class.
They still have the domestic First Class of course, but I thought this thread was focussing on the "real" First Class.
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Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Sydney NSW Australia
Posts: 2,337
Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
I didn't think Asiana had first class. That is the reason I omitted Asiana and several other *A airlines.
You can remove US from the list - they have Envoy only now on International. International First was dropped either two or three visits ago to Chapter 11. Domestic "First" is, as we all know, more of a Business Cabin with a fancy name ! Am not sure if their old F seats are still on their A330's or if they have been replaced by standard Envoy seating - I know for a long time the first row (old F) on their A330's was sold as part of Envoy and well worth trying to nab on the seat map
To further your workload, could you maybe start another similar thread for Business? Not so much for who operates it, but to keep a bluddy track of all the namby pamby marketing names they all use?!?!?!
Executive First, Amadeus, Envoy, Connoisseur (an old one I know), Top, Royal Executive, Avant, Raffles etc etc etc are all the various names for Business. Hard to keep up with who has who reading threads with a generic comment such as "Top has Espresso machine service" type of thing.
In that vein for the current thread, it may be required to know that all the carriers above call F "First Class" except for TG which has Royal First Class.
Last edited by Al B; May 18, 2006 at 3:49 am