PPS run - does such a thing exist?
#1
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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PPS run - does such a thing exist?
All,
While reading some of the recent discussion about RTW journey planning, I was wondering about what the cheapest way to get PPS membership might be. Has anybody ever done the math to see if a "PPS run" exists, where a certain combination of bookings/tickets gets disproportionate PPS sector bang for the buck?
Best wishes to all,
DoctorWu
While reading some of the recent discussion about RTW journey planning, I was wondering about what the cheapest way to get PPS membership might be. Has anybody ever done the math to see if a "PPS run" exists, where a certain combination of bookings/tickets gets disproportionate PPS sector bang for the buck?
Best wishes to all,
DoctorWu
#3
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Singapore
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Living in London you could probably take a train up to Manchester Ringway airport and fly SQ from there to ZRH and in back in either Raffles or First. You can either come right back or you can spend two nice days in ZRH enjoying the fresh air and mountain scenery or make a trip to the beatiful little town of Lucerne. On a RTW to maximize mileage this a possible routing for CRTWSTAR 1. ex-LHR, LHR-FRA-JFK(2.5 sectors)-SFO-HKG(5 sectors), HKG-BKK, BKK-KIX(2.5 sectors), KIX-SIN(2.5 sectors), SIN-DPS(1.25secots), DPS-SIN(1.25sectors), SIN-ZRH(5 sectors), ZRH-MAN(1.25sectors). Thats 17.5 sectors!! Not bad right. hope this helps
#4
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Originally Posted by got miles?
Living in London you could probably take a train up to Manchester Ringway airport and fly SQ from there to ZRH and in back in either Raffles or First.
I agree the MAN-ZRH vv is a nice quick way of clocking some PPS sectors in Europe.
#5
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Originally Posted by MAN Flyer
I agree the MAN-ZRH vv is a nice quick way of clocking some PPS sectors in Europe.
I'd rather do a FRA-JFK return for around 2200 EUR to get the 5 sectors in J.
#6
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I found a very nice fare earlier this year that netted 12.5 PPS sectors and doable over 2 1/2 days. Not as good as the ex CMB fares (pre price increase) but not bad for this part of the world.
That's gone now but current fare is still not bad & I will do another early next year to get requal PPS out of the way.
That's gone now but current fare is still not bad & I will do another early next year to get requal PPS out of the way.
#7
Join Date: May 2004
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Note that ex-CMB ALL SQ fares did not increase 15 Sept .. they had already gone up ..but may rise again... C for CMB-West Coast is around USD 1400 ..and best way I had approved by SQ Sales in CMB was a PPS sector run ...
CMSB-SIN-ICN-YVR-SFO (all on SQ or SQ codeshare = OK for PPS [YVR-SFO is an SQ cs on AC] ) then for MR you can add down to LAX, etc
and return.... 17 PPS sectors or about USD92/sector ...and you need 25 to qualify for PPS
A friend just booked this at my suggestion -- for 4 pax in December/January
CMSB-SIN-ICN-YVR-SFO (all on SQ or SQ codeshare = OK for PPS [YVR-SFO is an SQ cs on AC] ) then for MR you can add down to LAX, etc
and return.... 17 PPS sectors or about USD92/sector ...and you need 25 to qualify for PPS
A friend just booked this at my suggestion -- for 4 pax in December/January
#10
Join Date: Oct 2003
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PPS MR EX-SIN
1.Buy a cheap one-way to SIN-CMB
2. CMB-SIN-ICN-YVR-SFO-ICN-SIN-CMN SQ C-Clasds USD.1400.00
= 17.5 SEGs.
3. Cmb-SIN-JNB-SIN- CMB. USD.1700.00 I did this in 2-days. Had a one day meeting in JNB.9. SEGs.
4. CMB-JNB-CMB allows a stop in SIN on return. Stop Max. So you caouldd hold the SIN-CMB for next PPS MR. Without SIN-CMB sector one can still get the 25 SEGs.
TOTAL: USD.3100. Can be done in a week including crossing the dateline.
S
1.Buy a cheap one-way to SIN-CMB
2. CMB-SIN-ICN-YVR-SFO-ICN-SIN-CMN SQ C-Clasds USD.1400.00
= 17.5 SEGs.
3. Cmb-SIN-JNB-SIN- CMB. USD.1700.00 I did this in 2-days. Had a one day meeting in JNB.9. SEGs.
4. CMB-JNB-CMB allows a stop in SIN on return. Stop Max. So you caouldd hold the SIN-CMB for next PPS MR. Without SIN-CMB sector one can still get the 25 SEGs.
TOTAL: USD.3100. Can be done in a week including crossing the dateline.
S
#11
Join Date: Oct 2003
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PPS MR EX-SIN
1.Buy a cheap one-way to SIN-CMB
2. CMB-SIN-ICN-YVR-SFO-ICN-SIN-CMN SQ C-Clasds USD.1400.00
= 17.5 SEGs.
3. Cmb-SIN-JNB-SIN- CMB. USD.1700.00 I did this in 2-days. Had a one day meeting in JNB.9. SEGs.
4. CMB-JNB-CMB allows a stop in SIN on return. So you could hold the SIN-CMB for next PPS MR. Without SIN-CMB sector one can still get the 25 SEGs.
TOTAL: USD.3100. Can be done in a weekI did it including crossing the dateline.
I only netted 45,000 Qualifying Miles these two were my Business trips.
I just worked out a creative mileage Run for a friend,it will net him: 25PPS & 50,000 Elite miles. Gold with UA or AC.
S
1.Buy a cheap one-way to SIN-CMB
2. CMB-SIN-ICN-YVR-SFO-ICN-SIN-CMN SQ C-Clasds USD.1400.00
= 17.5 SEGs.
3. Cmb-SIN-JNB-SIN- CMB. USD.1700.00 I did this in 2-days. Had a one day meeting in JNB.9. SEGs.
4. CMB-JNB-CMB allows a stop in SIN on return. So you could hold the SIN-CMB for next PPS MR. Without SIN-CMB sector one can still get the 25 SEGs.
TOTAL: USD.3100. Can be done in a weekI did it including crossing the dateline.
I only netted 45,000 Qualifying Miles these two were my Business trips.
I just worked out a creative mileage Run for a friend,it will net him: 25PPS & 50,000 Elite miles. Gold with UA or AC.
S
Last edited by yyzprincess; Sep 22, 2004 at 1:05 pm
#14
Join Date: May 2004
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This is sooo TRUE... PPS is more than just *G ...a lot better than SQ KrisFlyer Elite ...as you have to travel C or F to qualify...you get neat gifts..and lounge access at SQ regardless of class of travel (Y --> Raffles lounge; C+F -> First) AND you Red Carpet Club access on UA (which I can't even with UA 1k) ...all my miles go to UA MP but I still maintain PPS (7 yrs now)
#15
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
Because PPS (and Solitaire PPS and Lifetime Solitaire PPS) are treated much better than even *G.
PPS is certainly not mid-tier in the sense of how most FFP's work.
PPS is certainly not mid-tier in the sense of how most FFP's work.
if you're in C or F, you are treated the same as everyone else, the only benefit i see is silver kris lounge access, UA red carpet club access and waitlist priority. if you need to spend US$1400 for a PPS run, the cost of a red carpet membership is less than that. if you need to do a PPS run, you probably don't fly SQ enough to receive much benefit from silver kris lounge access or waitlist priority.
re: PPS gift - you're spending US$1400 to get US$100 in gift vouchers?