No DeltaOne Availability June Onward
Apr 3, 2020, 11:49 am
#1
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No DeltaOne Availability June Onward
We were booked in Delta One, using Virgin Atlantic miles for a trip to Asia in April. Now that we have to cancel due to COVID-19, we were looking to rebook after June. I can't seem to find ANY DeltaOne availability at all from DTW, ATL, or MSP to Asia - but the flights look available on Delta (at saver rates). With the ongoing crisis, is Delta not releasing partner availability?
Apr 3, 2020, 11:58 am
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Same here but for different routes for a Delta redemption using VS miles.
I’ve also found with the Alaska program that there doesn’t seem to be any JAL J-Class awards available (but there is sporadic Y availability), at least for the routes I’m looking for. That’s into 2021.
I wonder if it’s either down to airlines freezing their availability in the hopes of picking up revenue tickets, or so many thousands of other people are rebooking their travel for the furthest dates ahead as possible (granted, unlikely to be the second, given some of the random routings i’m looking at).
I’ve also found with the Alaska program that there doesn’t seem to be any JAL J-Class awards available (but there is sporadic Y availability), at least for the routes I’m looking for. That’s into 2021.
I wonder if it’s either down to airlines freezing their availability in the hopes of picking up revenue tickets, or so many thousands of other people are rebooking their travel for the furthest dates ahead as possible (granted, unlikely to be the second, given some of the random routings i’m looking at).
Apr 3, 2020, 1:06 pm
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This.
With vastly reduced capacity, carriers are holding their premium cabins for cash tickets. Cash is now king and while getting miles off the books is a good thing overall, miles still aren't cash. Redemption space will likely open if the flight continues to operate and D1 doesn't sell.
Even post-Covid, carriers will need to bring back service where they can sell it.
With vastly reduced capacity, carriers are holding their premium cabins for cash tickets. Cash is now king and while getting miles off the books is a good thing overall, miles still aren't cash. Redemption space will likely open if the flight continues to operate and D1 doesn't sell.
Even post-Covid, carriers will need to bring back service where they can sell it.
Apr 3, 2020, 4:51 pm
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There's little point in even thinking about rebooking until you're sure this lockdown is over. Schedules will be practically meaningless from one week to the next. If your schedule is super flexible, I'd be checking every evening to see if you could snag the seats you want on a flight that departs in a day or two. But, I wouldn't want to be travelling until things have calmed way down.
Apr 4, 2020, 1:04 am
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Same here but for different routes for a Delta redemption using VS miles.
I’ve also found with the Alaska program that there doesn’t seem to be any JAL J-Class awards available (but there is sporadic Y availability), at least for the routes I’m looking for. That’s into 2021.
I wonder if it’s either down to airlines freezing their availability in the hopes of picking up revenue tickets, or so many thousands of other people are rebooking their travel for the furthest dates ahead as possible (granted, unlikely to be the second, given some of the random routings i’m looking at).
I’ve also found with the Alaska program that there doesn’t seem to be any JAL J-Class awards available (but there is sporadic Y availability), at least for the routes I’m looking for. That’s into 2021.
I wonder if it’s either down to airlines freezing their availability in the hopes of picking up revenue tickets, or so many thousands of other people are rebooking their travel for the furthest dates ahead as possible (granted, unlikely to be the second, given some of the random routings i’m looking at).
ANA F, SFO-HND with VS miles, Nov
ANA F, NRT-SFO with VS miles, Nov
JAL F, SFO-HND with AS miles, Nov
JAL J, SFO-HND + NRT-YVR with CX miles, Mar
JAL F, SFO-HND with Avios, Mar
And this is SFO. LAX routes are full of J and F award space as usual from what I can see. IDK if DL is adjusting inventory or not but I see nothing of that sort with the JP carriers.
Apr 4, 2020, 1:10 pm
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Hmm, I'm not seeing any roadblocks to using VS miles on international Delta One routes.
Domestic D1 is another story, but that's not COVID-19 related. Domestic D1 availability appears to have been killed off entirely a month or two after TPG ran a post drawing attention to the great value ~2-3 years ago. The only way to book that now, with a VS (or SkyTeam) award, is to get lucky with married segments and wonky routing...
Domestic D1 is another story, but that's not COVID-19 related. Domestic D1 availability appears to have been killed off entirely a month or two after TPG ran a post drawing attention to the great value ~2-3 years ago. The only way to book that now, with a VS (or SkyTeam) award, is to get lucky with married segments and wonky routing...
Apr 4, 2020, 8:41 pm
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We were booked in Delta One, using Virgin Atlantic miles for a trip to Asia in April. Now that we have to cancel due to COVID-19, we were looking to rebook after June. I can't seem to find ANY DeltaOne availability at all from DTW, ATL, or MSP to Asia - but the flights look available on Delta (at saver rates). With the ongoing crisis, is Delta not releasing partner availability?
[KVS Tool 9.7.6/Diamond - Awards/DL-SkyTeam/US]
Code:
ATL Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Intl GA US [KATL] ICN Seoul Incheon Intl KR [RKSI] WED 15 Jul 2020 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Award Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------ DL 27 ATL 00:29 ICN 04:00 +1 359 0 CS9 WX9 YM9 KE 36 ATL 12:30 ICN 16:20 +1 74H 0 YS4 AF 681 ATL 16:35 CDG 07:05 +1 359 0 YS9 -> AF 264 CDG 13:10 +1 ICN 07:25 +2 77W 0 CS3 YS9 AF 689 ATL 20:05 CDG 10:35 +1 388 0 YS9 -> AF 264 CDG 13:10 +1 ICN 07:25 +2 77W 0 CS4 YS9 DL 1070 ATL 07:26 DTW 09:18 757 0 CS9 EX9 YM9 -> DL 159 DTW 13:51 ICN 16:30 +1 359 0 CS9 WX9 YM9 DL 2705 ATL 08:25 DTW 10:19 321 0 CS9 EX9 YM9 -> DL 159 DTW 13:51 ICN 16:30 +1 359 0 CS9 WX9 YM9 DL 95 ATL 09:40 DTW 11:34 757 0 CS9 EX9 YM9 -> DL 159 DTW 13:51 ICN 16:30 +1 359 0 CS9 WX9 YM9 DL 1410 ATL 07:25 LAX 09:06 321 0 YL4 -> KE 18 LAX 12:30 ICN 17:20 +1 388 0 YS4 DL 876 ATL 08:20 LAX 10:02 753 0 YS4 -> KE 18 LAX 12:30 ICN 17:20 +1 388 0 YS4 DL 2845 ATL 19:17 LAX 20:59 321 0 CS1 YL9 -> KE 12 LAX 23:30 ICN 04:20 +2 388 0 CS1 YS9 DL 2695 ATL 20:07 LAX 21:51 753 0 CS1 YL6 -> KE 12 LAX 23:30 ICN 04:20 +2 388 0 CS1 YS6 DL 1866 ATL 07:27 MSP 09:00 321 0 CS6 EX9 YM9 -> DL 171 MSP 14:31 ICN 17:20 +1 359 0 CS6 WX9 YM9 DL 1536 ATL 08:42 MSP 10:15 739 0 CS6 EX9 YM9 -> DL 171 MSP 14:31 ICN 17:20 +1 359 0 CS6 WX9 YM9 DL 2517 ATL 06:30 SEA 08:55 738 0 YS8 -> KE 20 SEA 13:00 ICN 16:40 +1 77W 0 YS8 DL 2517 ATL 06:30 SEA 08:55 738 0 CS7 EX9 YM9 -> DL 197 SEA 11:55 ICN 15:15 +1 339 0 CS7 WX2 EX9 YM9 DL 609 ATL 08:14 SEA 10:45 757 0 YS5 -> KE 20 SEA 13:00 ICN 16:40 +1 77W 0 YS5 DL 609 ATL 08:14 SEA 10:45 757 0 CL7 EX9 YM9 -> DL 197 SEA 11:55 ICN 15:15 +1 339 0 CL7 WX2 EX9 YM9 DL 2049 ATL 08:16 SFO 10:22 753 0 CS2 YS5 -> KE 24 SFO 13:10 ICN 17:20 +1 77W 0 CS2 YS5 DL 1047 ATL 17:51 SFO 20:05 757 0 CS1 YS8 -> KE 26 SFO 23:50 ICN 04:00 +2 77W 0 CS1 YS8 DL 2857 ATL 19:33 SFO 21:45 753 0 CS1 YS8 -> KE 26 SFO 23:50 ICN 04:00 +2 77W 0 CS1 YS8
[KVS Tool 9.7.6/Diamond - Awards/VS]
Code:
ATL Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Intl GA US [KATL] ICN Seoul Incheon Intl KR [RKSI] WED 15 Jul 2020 | 1 Seat Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Award Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------ DL 27 ATL 00:29 ICN 04:00 +1 359 0 YS9 AF 681 ATL 16:35 CDG 07:05 +1 359 0 YS9 -> AF 264 CDG 13:10 +1 ICN 07:25 +2 77W 0 YS9 AF 689 ATL 20:05 CDG 10:35 +1 388 0 YS9 -> AF 264 CDG 13:10 +1 ICN 07:25 +2 77W 0 YS9 DL 1070 ATL 07:26 DTW 09:18 757 0 YS9 -> DL 159 DTW 13:51 ICN 16:30 +1 359 0 YS9 DL 2705 ATL 08:25 DTW 10:19 321 0 YS9 -> DL 159 DTW 13:51 ICN 16:30 +1 359 0 YS9 DL 95 ATL 09:40 DTW 11:34 757 0 YS9 -> DL 159 DTW 13:51 ICN 16:30 +1 359 0 YS9 DL 2427 ATL 11:12 DTW 13:08 739 0 YS9 -> DL 159 DTW 13:51 ICN 16:30 +1 359 0 YS9 DL 1866 ATL 07:27 MSP 09:00 321 0 YS9 -> DL 171 MSP 14:31 ICN 17:20 +1 359 0 YS9 DL 1536 ATL 08:42 MSP 10:15 739 0 YS9 -> DL 171 MSP 14:31 ICN 17:20 +1 359 0 YS9 DL 987 ATL 10:43 MSP 12:15 321 0 YS9 -> DL 171 MSP 14:31 ICN 17:20 +1 359 0 YS9 DL 767 ATL 12:05 MSP 13:38 752 0 YS9 -> DL 171 MSP 14:31 ICN 17:20 +1 359 0 YS9 DL 2517 ATL 06:30 SEA 08:55 738 0 YS9 -> DL 197 SEA 11:55 ICN 15:15 +1 339 0 YS9
Apr 29, 2020, 10:21 pm
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DL even suspended all advance complimentary upgrades due to "needing to balance the cabin for social distancing" so I expect they've pretty much locked down all non-cash fare classes for premium cabins.
Apr 30, 2020, 12:29 am
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I have booked alternatively though AA web specials now but would rebook using my flying club miles if this gets resolved. (Not (hopefully) travelling till lates Feb so no in no rush)
Apr 30, 2020, 9:56 am
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