tilhas

In the past when it was MQM and it was simple. Now with PQP I'm curious what happens.

Example A
Origional Flight from YUL > LAX Direct as type cancelled because of mechanical issues (Would have been 2470 MQMs)
United protects me and routes me YUL>IAH>LAX on same fare type. New MQM is 2950MQM.

I would do nothing and get the higher MQMs
Now with PQP if the YUL to IAH to LAX was a higher "cost" would I get the increased PQP amount? What if it was less? Would I get less PQP?


Example B
Origional Flight fromYUL>IAH>LAX but my flight to IAH is delayed that I'd miss the LAX connect and they put me on a direct (Would have been 2950 MQMs)
United protects me and routes me on same fare type YUL > LAX New MQM is 2470 MQM

Typically I would call and they would credit me the MQM that I should have received on my origional fare.
Now with PQP the direct flight is probably a more expensive fare. Woul they give me the increased PQP amount?


Example C
Origional Flight from YUL > LAX Direct as type cancelled because of mechanical issues (Would have been 2470 MQMs)
United protects me and routes me YUL>IAH>LAX on same fare type. New MQM is 2950MQM

I would do nothing and get the higher MQMs
Now with PQP what if there were not the same type of S fare for example and they booked me as a Y. Would I get the higher PQP/Multiplier/Etc?

WineCountryUA

A little mixed metaphor here -- MQM were for non-UA programs, UA used PQM

PQMs is a dead metric and not longer used by UA.

On rerouting on a UA ticket and *A carriers, your PQPs will not change. just like PQDs did not. These are based on what you paid. regardless if rebooked into a higher fare class.

If you get routed off of *A in the case of Irrops / INVOL, then you need to request Original Routing Credit (ORC)

PQF may or may not change depending on the routing -- again if post lower than purchase routing, ask for ORC

Lifetime miles is another metric some are concerned about and if moved off of UA metal, it may post lower -- once again ORC to fix.

tilhas

Thank you!

I'm just thinking if I can increase the PQP during IRROP/INVOL taking advantage of a bad situation. Is there a way?
I know it happens 2-3 times a year and I will be about 2000PQP short of Gold :/ (I fly domenstic around 65 segments a year)

WineCountryUA

Short Answer, No
PQPs on an 016 UA ticket is what you paid. If you got re-issued an non 016 ticket, the posted PQPs might be higher or lower (mileage & fare class based), could be either -- ORC would give what the original ticket was.

Once things have posted, you can then decide what to do. But things like rebooking in a higher fare class with PQM multipliers are gone.


Paid upgrades now count for PQPs

jsloan

I have gotten slightly more PQDs than I paid on multiple occasions due to IRROPS. However, there's no strategy for it; it's just a matter of what UA's computer comes up with after rebooking. I suspect it would only happen on connecting flights.

tilhas

I'm flying out of CLT, so almost everything needs a connection to a hub. Keeping my fingers crossed lol

How much higher?

findark

Mid-trip reissues tend to mess up the calculation, yes. With ORC you at least get the higher amount of the two (choose whether to ask for ORC).

jsloan

One trip posted with about a 60% bonus. Another one posted with about a 25% bonus.

tilhas

Awesome! Can you check to see if it was a different class of fare?

jsloan

For PQD purposes, fare class isn't relevant, but I don't remember being pushed into a different fare class anyway. The computers just got confused about how much credit to allocate to each leg, and I ended up with more than 100%.

JimInOhio

To keep this in perspective, your PQP for a trip is going to be solely based on what you actually paid for the ticket. Yes, there might be an odd exception due to an IIRPOP but I can't recall getting a different PQP when that happened to me.

david_oz

I’ve had this happen already this year. Ticket was in K and re-issued in Y (this was a non 016 ticket). There isn’t really any way to know if or when this might happen, so if it does then it’s just good luck, and maybe better compensation than a 15% off base fare coupon from AC

tilhas

Here is another question.
If I booked a very cheap W fare in economy and I'm only getting 100PQFs on 2 segments

1)
If I do a switch to a different flight 24hrs in advanced on checkin, would it be possible to go for a higher fare (when I check online for next day the PQF are in the 8xx level) and get higher PQF or will the system use what I booked not what I flew?

2) If I change flight at ticketing? to an earlier flight? (Same story as above)

3) If I change the flight at the gate? to an earlier flight? (Same story as above)

Thank you

jsloan

For all three, the answer is, if you pay the fare difference, sure.

However, reading between the lines, I suspect you're asking if a flight change would reissue your ticket using the lowest currently-available fare but without charging you more, and the answer to that is no.