BA and Qatar joint venture application to Australia
Jan 23, 2020, 3:25 am
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BA and Qatar joint venture application to Australia
Looks like BA and Qatar are looking to coordinate pricing and schedules to Australia on a set of flights:
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...ralian-flights
Nine 'key routes' are highlighted in the joint business proposal:
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...ralian-flights
Nine 'key routes' are highlighted in the joint business proposal:
- Canberra – London
- Melbourne - London
- Melbourne - Edinburgh
- Melbourne - Manchester
- Adelaide – Manchester
- Adelaide – London
- Perth - London
- Perth - Edinburgh
- Perth - Manchester
Jan 23, 2020, 3:38 am
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A total win-win for BA, but for QR what can they get associating themselves with a base airline where you have to climb over bodies to get out of your business class seats and the service is so inconsistent?
Jan 23, 2020, 4:08 am
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To look at JV's just in the context of business class hardware is an extremely myopic view. Looking at the routes the only BA operated service that connects to QR services is the LHR-DOH, so I don't think the Club World service plays much of a part. BA have a huge FFP, marketing and sales database in the UK, that is what QR gain from a JV. QR may have an exceptional business class product, but they do not have yields to match. In fact they are almost always price leaders. An interesting development - it will be interesting to see the effect on
Jan 23, 2020, 4:15 am
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The plus for us will be that you can travel on QR metal and get bonus avios on the BA code.
Most of these key routes will be all QR metal assuming this will mostly funnel people into services via DOH.
But does this show a souring of relations with QF? Currently if you book BA to MEL, you are put on SYD-MEL on QF. Now you’ll just go on QR from DOH.
Most of these key routes will be all QR metal assuming this will mostly funnel people into services via DOH.
But does this show a souring of relations with QF? Currently if you book BA to MEL, you are put on SYD-MEL on QF. Now you’ll just go on QR from DOH.
Jan 23, 2020, 4:38 am
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Onward domestic connections in Sydney isn’t exactly seamless and many would welcome flying ‘straight” into Adelaide or Melbourne or Perth. Over connecting in Sydney.
Jan 23, 2020, 4:46 am
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I also wonder if QF might be building up to ditch the EK partnership, which appears less close than it once did.
Jan 23, 2020, 4:47 am
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The plus for us will be that you can travel on QR metal and get bonus avios on the BA code.
Most of these key routes will be all QR metal assuming this will mostly funnel people into services via DOH.
But does this show a souring of relations with QF? Currently if you book BA to MEL, you are put on SYD-MEL on QF. Now you’ll just go on QR from DOH.
Most of these key routes will be all QR metal assuming this will mostly funnel people into services via DOH.
But does this show a souring of relations with QF? Currently if you book BA to MEL, you are put on SYD-MEL on QF. Now you’ll just go on QR from DOH.
For the record BA codes on QR LGW-DOH-MEL have been available for some time.
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Jan 23, 2020, 4:50 am
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So it doesn't seem to me like this would be such a dramatic change so far as routing is concerned. The commercial aspects may, of course, be different - and they are pretty much wholly unknown to almost all of us.
Jan 23, 2020, 5:12 am
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You have to be aware when booking, as some flights (albeit not those to and from London) arer still slopey J seats - far worse that BA.
Jan 23, 2020, 5:17 am
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Personally I preferred their older long-haul 2x2x2 J seating to that of CW.
Jan 23, 2020, 5:58 am
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I think there are still some QR A330s that aren't 180 degrees, but I've yet to encounter that configuration.
Jan 23, 2020, 7:15 am
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Some of the B777s and A330s are 2-2-2, fully flat.
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