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Old Jan 26, 2020, 5:00 am
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BA have cancelled all flights to PKX (Beijing/Peking) and PVG (Shanghai Pu Dong) "until 19 April 2020".

BA frequency to HKG has been reduced with effect from 13 February 2020 - see below for further details. From HKG, Cathay is running a heavily reduced schedule to mainland destinations until the end of March.

If you are due to fly to PKX, PVG and your flight is cancelled then you have refund, re-route and rebook options. BA can rebook on to several other airlines.
If you are due to fly to Hong Kong until 1st April you have refund and rebook options.
If you are transiting into mainland China you are also covered as above.
If you are transiting internationally (e.g. LHR-HKG-SYD) you are not able to move your flights, unless they are cancelled anyway.
The latest ba.com update was on 21 February 2020 at 1510.

More information on the advice of Her Majesty's Government about travel and health is on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office website.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/china

For the Special Administration Regions of Hong Kong and Macao:
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/hong-kong
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/macao

Summary from IATA of all travel restrictions due to Coronavirus as added to TIMATIC https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm


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HKG frequency reductions (as of 1330 on 21 February 2020, all dates inclusive).

LHR-HKG

From Thu 13.02.2020 to Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (380).

Exceptions:-
  • Tue 18.02.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
  • Tue 10.03.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
  • Mon 27.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 28.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Wed 29.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Thu 30.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 11.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 12.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 18.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 19.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Sun 24.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 25.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 26.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (777).
In addition, on Mon 08.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (777).

HKG-LHR

From Fri 14.02.2020 to Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (380).

Exceptions:-
  • Wed 19.02.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
  • Wed 11.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
  • Sun 29.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 28.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 29.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Thu 30.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Fri 01.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 12.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 13.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 19.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 20.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Mon 25.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 26.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 27.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (777).
In addition, on Tue 09.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (777).

Note: Schedule changes take effect on Sun 29.03.2020 in both directions.

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Old Jan 20, 2020, 4:31 pm
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*Coronavirus : BA Suspends all flts to mainland China* +discussion on long haul flts

There are countless reports about the current coronavirus, and it's SARS like symptoms.

With an upcoming trip to Shanghai, I'm keeping tabs on the WHO and FCO advice.

Out of curiosity, what did BA do during the SARS outbreak a number of years ago? Did flights operate?

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Old Jan 20, 2020, 4:41 pm
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I will bow to others with better memories but I think flights ran uninterrupted.

'BA flights continue in spite of SARS'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/a...ticle-masthead
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Old Jan 20, 2020, 5:49 pm
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I expect SARS is a more appropriate comparison, but, for what it’s worth, in relation to Ebola they did withdraw from the Freetown route. Brussels Aitlnes continued with much encouragement and I did wonder whether withdrawal was an easier commercial decision for BA to take, ie Freetown being a marginal route. They never restarted the service.
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Just washing your hands or using an alcohol cleaning fluid (Minimum 60% ethanol) can be surprisingly effective. This is because you are constantly touching your face without realising it which helps transfer the virus from the many surfaces you touch to points of entry to your body.

If you are going to a region effective getting into the good habit of regularly washing your hands may be a good idea.

As might taking vitamin C and Zinc supplements which have some limited evidence to indicate it helps your immune system,
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 2:10 am
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Originally Posted by msm2000uk
Out of curiosity, what did BA do during the SARS outbreak a number of years ago? Did flights operate?
I was in China back then, but didn't fly BA. IIRC the PEK flights continued to NRT where there was a crew change.

The Air China flights went from daily 747 to a few times a week on the A340, full outbound from China, empty ex-London.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 2:16 am
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I remember travelling to China in the height of the SARS outbreak. Some (non-travelling) family members were anxious about my trip, but I found it funny that on arrival the BA passengers were screened for fever because there had been more cases in the UK at that point and the Chinese authorities were worried about us being the risky people.

Mind you, being tested by a thing shaped somewhat like a gun being held to my temple by a goverment official did give me a momentary frisson.
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I flew from HKG to YYZ the week things got really bad. The most shocking thing was arriving in Canada and being met by people in masks, mandatory temperature checks and a general sense of fear. Hong Kong was extraordinary, day by day you could see the city getting quieter and quieter as people just stayed home.

The following month I flew DPS-SIN on SQ and had both the F and J cabins to myself 😮

SARS was before BA served Shanghai but I recall they kept frequencies to both HKG and PEK.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 3:19 am
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter
I flew from HKG to YYZ the week things got really bad. The most shocking thing was arriving in Canada and being met by people in masks, mandatory temperature checks and a general sense of fear. Hong Kong was extraordinary, day by day you could see the city getting quieter and quieter as people just stayed home.

The following month I flew DPS-SIN on SQ and had both the F and J cabins to myself 😮

SARS was before BA served Shanghai but I recall they kept frequencies to both HKG and PEK.
I lived in HK at the time of SARS and BA did continue flying during it. As CX were my main customer there, our company preferred us to use them on flights back to the UK. It was actually good to fly then, having a row of 4 seats to yourself in economy was almost as good as business class
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 3:23 am
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter
Hong Kong was extraordinary, day by day you could see the city getting quieter and quieter as people just stayed home.

The following month I flew DPS-SIN on SQ and had both the F and J cabins to myself 😮
I traveled a lot around Asia that year. Just before I left Beijing in the April, the streets were much quieter than normal, smog/visibility got noticeably better. There were some super deals on flights too, and tourist attractions were quiet. Mid-summer I was in Cambodia, and we were the only group in Angkor Wat for sunrise. Nowadays there are thousands of people there. Every SQ boarding pass got a "SARS Fever Check" stamp once you'd gone through the fever scan.
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Currently in Qingdao, the Chinese Government are now taking this very seriously.
  • First case of the virus has turned up in this city from someone who has visited Wuhan.
  • Five hospitals in this city of 9 million people have been designated as being qualified to handle possible cases of infection.
  • All leave over the spring festival for relevant qualified medical staff has been cancelled and they have to be within an hour or so of their medical base.
  • All passengers on flights already being screened throughout the country. Action plan to put body temperature scanners in at train stations and other long distance hubs being implemented at high speed.
  • Government are encouraging the population to take sensible precautions, wear face masks, drink more water, wash hands, etc.
  • My friends here say that there is a slight uptick in the use of face masks so far but many people wear them usually at this time of the year especially in the north when it's cold.

If any government in this world would have a fighting chance of controlling this outbreak my guess is that China has to be at the top of the list, they have the resources to do so, and appear to have the political will behind this. I am sure the big data machine is hard at work in China already trying to join the dots. It's really unfortunate that so many people in China are due to travel at this time of year and that will increase those risks. I guess we will all have to watch this space.

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Old Jan 21, 2020, 3:42 am
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Also off to PVG in a few weeks so will monitor this closely.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 3:46 am
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I was in Beijing for the SARS infection period - I certainly don't recall there being any change in the number of BA flights, though I wasn't flying BA much at that time to be honest so may not have noticed a minor reduction in service. Makes sense that according to shefgab they carried on to NRT to avoid crew staying in China.

msm2000uk If things do get worse and the trip is not work related, bear in mind also that there can be some good deals on MH and UL out of PVG.
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 3:54 am
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China Railway just declared refund waiver for Wuhan rail travel https://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/cnnews/2...00952_001.html

But that's a long way before foreign carriers will cancel flights to PVG.
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What does this thread have to do with BA?
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Old Jan 21, 2020, 4:28 am
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What does this thread have to do with BA?
It has mutated just like the virus...
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