New BP Scanners to Enforce Zones?
Jan 20, 2020, 1:47 pm
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New BP Scanners to Enforce Zones?
Just had an interesting boarding experience at CHS. There were new scanners installed where your BP stays face up, instead of facing down on the glass. Now that may not seem revolutionary, but at least two people in front of me during PREM boarding were asked if they were in first class after they put their phones under the scanner and it didn't beep. They were not, and were asked to leave the line and board with their zone. Maybe it was coincidence, but it seems like maybe they are getting serious about people boarding in their proper zone.
Anyone seen these scanners at other airports and seen similar results?
Anyone seen these scanners at other airports and seen similar results?
Jan 20, 2020, 2:10 pm
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Just had an interesting boarding experience at CHS. There were new scanners installed where your BP stays face up, instead of facing down on the glass. Now that may not seem revolutionary, but at least two people in front of me during PREM boarding were asked if they were in first class after they put their phones under the scanner and it didn't beep. They were not, and were asked to leave the line and board with their zone. Maybe it was coincidence, but it seems like maybe they are getting serious about people boarding in their proper zone.
Anyone seen these scanners at other airports and seen similar results?
Anyone seen these scanners at other airports and seen similar results?
Jan 20, 2020, 2:19 pm
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UA has had this system for a while. It makes a loud unpleasant buzzer sound if you try to board early, for extra shaming. Though I imagine it wouldn't necessarily require installing new scanners to program the system to do this.
Jan 20, 2020, 2:32 pm
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I posted in another thread. If this happens the system should automatically move you to middle seat, row in front of emergency exit/last row (no recline). You then have to wait till last to board.
Jan 20, 2020, 2:40 pm
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I think just turning people away to the back of the line is sufficient enough punishment that, if universally enforced, will lead to an end of this problem.
Jan 20, 2020, 2:45 pm
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I say this because I was just at LAX yesterday, and the GA was very vigilant. After I boarded a couple guys were loudly making fun of him when they entered the aircraft 'we aren't boarding your group yet SIR' and basically saying it's always worth a try and they get away with it other times. So they were proudly boasting about trying to cheat the system, not shamed at all.
Jan 20, 2020, 2:50 pm
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Unfortunately I don't think the shaming stops some people. Although consistently sending them back might make them realize that it isn't worth trying.
I say this because I was just at LAX yesterday, and the GA was very vigilant. After I boarded a couple guys were loudly making fun of him when they entered the aircraft 'we aren't boarding your group yet SIR' and basically saying it's always worth a try and they get away with it other times. So they were proudly boasting about trying to cheat the system, not shamed at all.
I say this because I was just at LAX yesterday, and the GA was very vigilant. After I boarded a couple guys were loudly making fun of him when they entered the aircraft 'we aren't boarding your group yet SIR' and basically saying it's always worth a try and they get away with it other times. So they were proudly boasting about trying to cheat the system, not shamed at all.
Jan 20, 2020, 3:00 pm
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All they have to do is board with the "need additional time people" as Delta won't ruffle those feathers. Just today I saw 3 women board when it was called, all appearing to perfectly healthy.
Jan 20, 2020, 3:03 pm
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Jan 20, 2020, 3:31 pm
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I'm tempted to have this same mindset when I see people going up early, but pain and disabilities are complicated enough that it's impossible to judge on the surface. Someone with severe back or joint pain, for example, might not be hunched over and limping while still needing to stand as little as possible. I guess a note from the doctor requesting pre-boarding might be a step to filtering, but I doubt a one-look by the gate agent would be fair enough to distinguish proper disabilities from early-board abusers, especially if the cost of a false negative is high from social or legal fallout.
Jan 20, 2020, 3:32 pm
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Jan 20, 2020, 4:15 pm
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As bad as delta boarding might seem aa is 100 times worse with their 8 different boarding zones and everyone acting like gate lice for zone 1. The aa agents never turn people away
it would always annoy me when 20 people board zone 1 (first class) on a plane with 8 f seats.
it would always annoy me when 20 people board zone 1 (first class) on a plane with 8 f seats.
Jan 20, 2020, 4:39 pm
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As bad as delta boarding might seem aa is 100 times worse with their 8 different boarding zones and everyone acting like gate lice for zone 1. The aa agents never turn people away
it would always annoy me when 20 people board zone 1 (first class) on a plane with 8 f seats.
it would always annoy me when 20 people board zone 1 (first class) on a plane with 8 f seats.