Preclearance international flights at Love
Oct 13, 2019, 4:44 pm
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Preclearance international flights at Love
Is there any legal reason Southwest wouldn't be able to operate flights from international airports with US preclearance (i.e. Vancouver, Toronto, Nassau) to Dallas Love (an airport without US customs & immigrations facilities)?
I suppose the same answer would apply to Burbank and Long Beach as well.
I suppose the same answer would apply to Burbank and Long Beach as well.
Last edited by Colin; Oct 13, 2019 at 7:01 pm
Oct 13, 2019, 7:03 pm
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Works that way today. Not really sure where Southwest goes from there to here (FLL? HOU?), but the inbound/U.S. "arrival" airport is essentially meaningless. It gets even better if you have G.E. -- hit the Global Entry kiosk in the U.S. CBP facility down there, wave your receipt at The Help, they smile & wave you up the escalator to the terminal.
You go thru the routine down there and land up here as though you just came from Nashville or wherever. Get off the plane and get on about your business. Certainly Canada or wherever that currently has PC would be the same if WN were ever to do business there.
Works that way today. Not really sure where Southwest goes from there to here (FLL? HOU?), but the inbound/U.S. "arrival" airport is essentially meaningless. It gets even better if you have G.E. -- hit the Global Entry kiosk in the U.S. CBP facility down there, wave your receipt at The Help, they smile & wave you up the escalator to the terminal.
You go thru the routine down there and land up here as though you just came from Nashville or wherever. Get off the plane and get on about your business. Certainly Canada or wherever that currently has PC would be the same if WN were ever to do business there.
Oct 13, 2019, 7:55 pm
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It just occurred to me what the OP may have actually been asking.
Dallas Business Journal
March 15th, 2017
"We still have the 20-gate restriction and we're not allowed to do international flights out of Love Field, but all domestic nonstop flights are available. We serve 50 nonstop destinations right now"
Presumably if they can't go out, they're not allowed in
Dallas Business Journal
March 15th, 2017
Love Field aviation director: 'No chance’ of international flights or further expansion
"We still have the 20-gate restriction and we're not allowed to do international flights out of Love Field, but all domestic nonstop flights are available. We serve 50 nonstop destinations right now"
Presumably if they can't go out, they're not allowed in
Oct 13, 2019, 8:07 pm
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The CBP goal is "identifying terrorists, criminals, and other national security threats prior to their boarding an aircraft bound for the United States." I was surprised to find pre-clearance more time consuming at YUL and YYZ than transactions at JFK and ATL, inbound from Asia and Europe. A small sample size, to be sure, and time of day is huge variable.
Oct 14, 2019, 12:40 pm
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Oct 14, 2019, 12:59 pm
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The CBP goal is "identifying terrorists, criminals, and other national security threats prior to their boarding an aircraft bound for the United States." I was surprised to find pre-clearance more time consuming at YUL and YYZ than transactions at JFK and ATL, inbound from Asia and Europe. A small sample size, to be sure, and time of day is huge variable.
I must have had very good luck but the last three times I went through US CBP in the U.S. at different airports I went from the plane to curb in less than 15 mins ( it helps I was one of the first ones off and had no hold baggage). I have heard some horror stories about taking as much as two hours to clear primary CBP in some U.S. airports, something I have never experience in pre-clearance facilities.
Oct 15, 2019, 4:35 pm
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It just occurred to me what the OP may have actually been asking.
Dallas Business Journal
March 15th, 2017
"We still have the 20-gate restriction and we're not allowed to do international flights out of Love Field, but all domestic nonstop flights are available. We serve 50 nonstop destinations right now"
Presumably if they can't go out, they're not allowed in
Dallas Business Journal
March 15th, 2017
Love Field aviation director: 'No chance’ of international flights or further expansion
"We still have the 20-gate restriction and we're not allowed to do international flights out of Love Field, but all domestic nonstop flights are available. We serve 50 nonstop destinations right now"
Presumably if they can't go out, they're not allowed in
Oct 17, 2019, 9:22 am
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Aruba.
Works that way today. Not really sure where Southwest goes from there to here (FLL? HOU?), but the inbound/U.S. "arrival" airport is essentially meaningless. It gets even better if you have G.E. -- hit the Global Entry kiosk in the U.S. CBP facility down there, wave your receipt at The Help, they smile & wave you up the escalator to the terminal.
You go thru the routine down there and land up here as though you just came from Nashville or wherever. Get off the plane and get on about your business. Certainly Canada or wherever that currently has PC would be the same if WN were ever to do business there.
Works that way today. Not really sure where Southwest goes from there to here (FLL? HOU?), but the inbound/U.S. "arrival" airport is essentially meaningless. It gets even better if you have G.E. -- hit the Global Entry kiosk in the U.S. CBP facility down there, wave your receipt at The Help, they smile & wave you up the escalator to the terminal.
You go thru the routine down there and land up here as though you just came from Nashville or wherever. Get off the plane and get on about your business. Certainly Canada or wherever that currently has PC would be the same if WN were ever to do business there.