AM PDX-IAD cancelled for most of July
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AM PDX-IAD cancelled for most of July
I just got a schedule change notice that my morning non-stop PDX-IAD 8am-3:58pm has been cancelled after July 3 and won't resume until August 1.
It seems kind of strange this flight would stop for a peak summer month to the Pacific Northwest which connects with the main European bank at IAD.
Anyone have more information?
They are running a redeye 10:55pm-6:53am. Though nobody asked me, this seems to not make as much sense. I guess it connects to some mid Atlantic and east coast destinations and the morning London flight.
It seems kind of strange this flight would stop for a peak summer month to the Pacific Northwest which connects with the main European bank at IAD.
Anyone have more information?
They are running a redeye 10:55pm-6:53am. Though nobody asked me, this seems to not make as much sense. I guess it connects to some mid Atlantic and east coast destinations and the morning London flight.
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I just got a schedule change notice that my morning non-stop PDX-IAD 8am-3:58pm has been cancelled after July 3 and won't resume until August 1.
It seems kind of strange this flight would stop for a peak summer month to the Pacific Northwest which connects with the main European bank at IAD.
Anyone have more information?
They are running a redeye 10:55pm-6:53am. Though nobody asked me, this seems to not make as much sense. I guess it connects to some mid Atlantic and east coast destinations and the morning London flight.
It seems kind of strange this flight would stop for a peak summer month to the Pacific Northwest which connects with the main European bank at IAD.
Anyone have more information?
They are running a redeye 10:55pm-6:53am. Though nobody asked me, this seems to not make as much sense. I guess it connects to some mid Atlantic and east coast destinations and the morning London flight.
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But why, now, the schedule change? Because July is now six-weeks away, and that's when schedules often get the "final touch". It may be that the schedule prior to now was preliminary, and it might not have completely factored-in the impacts of the MAX grounding... until now.
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Yes, but I think it's generally true that UA might be trying to increase utilization out of its entire narrowbody fleet while the MAX is grounded. Taking a plane, an A320 in this case, and flying it through the night instead of parking it overnight, increases the utilization of that particular fleet. The cumulative effect of all fleets being better utilized helps offset the capacity loss from the MAX grounding. ....
The 739 (MAX or not) is 30% more seats than A320 -- so not a particularly good replacement. A320 is more of a 738 equivalent
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Unless you think UA was only putting the MAX on the most marginal routes, it seems dubious at best to think the medium-term narrowbody flights cancelled from the grounding would be those originally scheduled on the MAX.
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This is directly related to the MAX. It is a snow ball effect. For example I have an E-175 shifted to as CRJ. The e-175 is taking over for a 319.
319 is replacing a 738 and the 738 is replacing a MAX. This happened this week as the schedule adjustments were made system wide. Cancellations allow aircraft shifts and the PDX-IAD is an example. Goes back to original schedule on Aug 1 for my above example along with over 300 others. My example starts with a IAD-GSP shift.
319 is replacing a 738 and the 738 is replacing a MAX. This happened this week as the schedule adjustments were made system wide. Cancellations allow aircraft shifts and the PDX-IAD is an example. Goes back to original schedule on Aug 1 for my above example along with over 300 others. My example starts with a IAD-GSP shift.
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I have no knowledge if this is or is not related to the MAX grounding. However, I am surprised about this cancellation. The 5pm bank of flights at IAD is essentially the only bank left. Its the bank that connects to all the transatlantic flights, which are very popular in the summer. I would guess this flight has a 90%+ LF during the July.
Assuming UA had to cut flights due to aircraft availability, this is not one I would have thought would be on the chopping block.
Assuming UA had to cut flights due to aircraft availability, this is not one I would have thought would be on the chopping block.
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I have no knowledge if this is or is not related to the MAX grounding. However, I am surprised about this cancellation. The 5pm bank of flights at IAD is essentially the only bank left. It’s the bank that connects to all the transatlantic flights, which are very popular in the summer. I would guess this flight has a 90%+ LF during the July.
Assuming UA had to cut flights due to aircraft availability, this is not one I would have thought would be on the chopping block.
Assuming UA had to cut flights due to aircraft availability, this is not one I would have thought would be on the chopping block.
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I have no knowledge if this is or is not related to the MAX grounding. However, I am surprised about this cancellation. The 5pm bank of flights at IAD is essentially the only bank left. Its the bank that connects to all the transatlantic flights, which are very popular in the summer. I would guess this flight has a 90%+ LF during the July.
Assuming UA had to cut flights due to aircraft availability, this is not one I would have thought would be on the chopping block.
Assuming UA had to cut flights due to aircraft availability, this is not one I would have thought would be on the chopping block.
So this flight gets the ax.
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There are knock-on effects from the MAX grounding... for instance, they initially were scheduled on a number of West Coast-Hawaii flights, but those flights havent been canceled altogether. Instead, other airplanes are swapped in, which come from somewhere, and those flights need to be covered be other equipment, and so on.
Eventually, something has to give, and its very unusual for UA to be pulling service so late during the busiest season of the year. Effects of the MAX grounding are a logical explanation.
Eventually, something has to give, and its very unusual for UA to be pulling service so late during the busiest season of the year. Effects of the MAX grounding are a logical explanation.