MR (USA) to Flying Blue (AF/KL) 25% bonus to April 29, 2019
Mar 18, 2019, 11:46 am
#1
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MR (USA) to Flying Blue (AF/KL) 25% bonus to April 29, 2019
Special Offer: Get 25% more Air France KLM Flying Blue Miles when you transfer Membership Rewards points through 4/29/2019.
Normal rate: 1000:1000
Promo rate: 1000:1250
Normal rate: 1000:1000
Promo rate: 1000:1250
Mar 23, 2019, 4:52 pm
#3
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA
Posts: 74
Warning - Air France / FB just claimed my 254,000 MR points I transferred were Fraud
TL;DR - 3 days ago, I transferred 254,000 (317,500 with conversion) MR points to Flying Blue. They, however, refuse to book the tickets, with FB staff stating the account is "Fraudulent." (the message on the website is that the booking request is too complicated, and that you have to go to a ticket office).
I have another thread over on the AirFrance/Flying Blue section asking if there's anything I can do. But, I thought I'd warn my fellow MR people that this can happen. Be careful transferring to AirFrance. I've been fighting this 3 days. I have gone to the ticket counter and showed them my passports. Nothing helps.
Be warned!
I have another thread over on the AirFrance/Flying Blue section asking if there's anything I can do. But, I thought I'd warn my fellow MR people that this can happen. Be careful transferring to AirFrance. I've been fighting this 3 days. I have gone to the ticket counter and showed them my passports. Nothing helps.
Be warned!
Mar 23, 2019, 5:03 pm
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TL;DR - 3 days ago, I transferred 254,000 (317,500 with conversion) MR points to Flying Blue. They, however, refuse to book the tickets, with FB staff stating the account is "Fraudulent." (the message on the website is that the booking request is too complicated, and that you have to go to a ticket office).
I have another thread over on the AirFrance/Flying Blue section asking if there's anything I can do. But, I thought I'd warn my fellow MR people that this can happen. Be careful transferring to AirFrance. I've been fighting this 3 days. I have gone to the ticket counter and showed them my passports. Nothing helps.
Be warned!
I have another thread over on the AirFrance/Flying Blue section asking if there's anything I can do. But, I thought I'd warn my fellow MR people that this can happen. Be careful transferring to AirFrance. I've been fighting this 3 days. I have gone to the ticket counter and showed them my passports. Nothing helps.
Be warned!
Everything happens for a reason.
Mar 23, 2019, 5:05 pm
#6
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How many flights have you done on AF/KLM?
Or other Skyteam airlines that credited to your FB ff account?
What is your ff status with FB (AF/KLM)?
OP other threads
Or other Skyteam airlines that credited to your FB ff account?
What is your ff status with FB (AF/KLM)?
OP other threads
Mar 23, 2019, 5:15 pm
#7
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"For the last two and a half years I’ve written about customers having their accounts shut down by Air France after transferring points in from a bank partner and redeeming an award.
An Air France auditor claimed at the time, “[T]he use of our frequent flyer accounts as boxes opened to transfer miles with our non air partners won’t be allowed anymore.”
While Air France swears that’s not the policy, their anti-fraud folks went off the rails. If they didn’t shut down accounts, sometimes they just blocked ticketing and required customers to go to an airport to complete their purchase."
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...ticket-awards/
An Air France auditor claimed at the time, “[T]he use of our frequent flyer accounts as boxes opened to transfer miles with our non air partners won’t be allowed anymore.”
While Air France swears that’s not the policy, their anti-fraud folks went off the rails. If they didn’t shut down accounts, sometimes they just blocked ticketing and required customers to go to an airport to complete their purchase."
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...ticket-awards/
Mar 23, 2019, 5:51 pm
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"For the last two and a half years I’ve written about customers having their accounts shut down by Air France after transferring points in from a bank partner and redeeming an award."
It's pretty concerning that this has now apparently happened to at least three people. Isn't a huge part of the value of MRs/URs/TYPs/etc. the fact that they can be transferred to a variety of programs, presumably many of which most of these CC holders have never used before? This seems like something AMEX should be made aware of.
Mar 23, 2019, 8:05 pm
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Air France/FB says my 317,000+ MR transfer is FRAUD! Help!
Air France/FB says my 317,000+ MR transfer is FRAUD! Help!
Mar 23, 2019, 9:00 pm
#10
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA
Posts: 74
Mar 23, 2019, 9:03 pm
#11
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA
Posts: 74
The account is new. I created it specifically to take advantage of the bonus, and to try out Air France. I have done 0 flights on Air France/Skyteam. However, I am Platinum for Life on American, and a regular Star Alliance flyer now. I'm not an "amateur" flyer. If anything, my problem is that I don't post enough on here, or only when there's something I could use some help with.
Mar 23, 2019, 9:06 pm
#12
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA
Posts: 74
They asked me to, and I did go to IAD today. I showed them all my details, and all the details of the parties trying to travel with me (my wife and daughter). Passports and everything. And, they still didn't, or rather couldn't, book it after I had done all of this (and burned the entire day doing it as they said they were open at 9am, but really weren't open until 2pm).
Mar 23, 2019, 9:09 pm
#13
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA
Posts: 74
How many flights have you done on AF/KLM?
Or other Skyteam airlines that credited to your FB ff account?
What is your ff status with FB (AF/KLM)?
OP other threads
Or other Skyteam airlines that credited to your FB ff account?
What is your ff status with FB (AF/KLM)?
OP other threads
Apr 29, 2019, 8:02 am
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The account is new. I created it specifically to take advantage of the bonus, and to try out Air France. I have done 0 flights on Air France/Skyteam. However, I am Platinum for Life on American, and a regular Star Alliance flyer now. I'm not an "amateur" flyer. If anything, my problem is that I don't post enough on here, or only when there's something I could use some help with.
I actually just credited two short intra-Europe AF flights to Flying Blue, rather than DL, in order to open the door to hassle-free AMEX transfers.