AF/DL Ticket swap
#1
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AF/DL Ticket swap
This may be a stupid question, but my company booked me a J fare ticket JFK-CDG on Air France and I'm trying to figure out if there's any way possible for me to swap that to a Delta ticket instead to get the max MQD's for that ticket. The MQD's I'll receive otherwise are far less than what is being paid for the ticket.
Not sure if this is possible, but figured I'd ask.
Thanks in advance!
Not sure if this is possible, but figured I'd ask.
Thanks in advance!
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Ticket doesn't matter, marketing of flight does. The flight you're on would need to be sold as for example DL1015 codeshare operated by AF flight number, etc to earn MQD per dollat spent.
Don't forget MQD on partner coded are percent of distance flown, not percent of what was paid. Bring up, as lots of people confuse this.
Don't forget MQD on partner coded are percent of distance flown, not percent of what was paid. Bring up, as lots of people confuse this.
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So you've calculated it out based on DL's earning charts, and you're positive that you'll come out better on DL? It can be unpredictable.
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Yeah, from what I can tell, this is a $10k plus ticket in J, booked with AF. So while I think I'll get the same MQM and miles, I won't get the full $10k MQD, and rather receive the $2980.
Basically just trying to get the full worth of the MQD by rebooking on DL, even though the flight is on AF metal.
Basically just trying to get the full worth of the MQD by rebooking on DL, even though the flight is on AF metal.
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Yeah, from what I can tell, this is a $10k plus ticket in J, booked with AF. So while I think I'll get the same MQM and miles, I won't get the full $10k MQD, and rather receive the $2980.
Basically just trying to get the full worth of the MQD by rebooking on DL, even though the flight is on AF metal.
Basically just trying to get the full worth of the MQD by rebooking on DL, even though the flight is on AF metal.
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You can only do this if part of the itinerary involves delta metal. If it's a "pure" AF ticket it won't work based on my experience, though it's still worth asking since the TATL JV has gotten more intense over the years, and the US DM desk always says "DL/KL/AF Diamond medallion desk"...
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You can only do this if part of the itinerary involves delta metal. If it's a "pure" AF ticket it won't work based on my experience, though it's still worth asking since the TATL JV has gotten more intense over the years, and the US DM desk always says "DL/KL/AF Diamond medallion desk"...
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Under the JV and the agreement DL have to handle AF/KL tickets this isn't the case. The question is if the fare allows the other carrier code. Not all fares allow the codeshare number to be used. Generally speaking for TATL segments without connections this isn't an issue for DL/AF/KL fares. What couldn't be done is ticket say SAT-JFK by itself as an AF codeshare. Then would be getting into legal issues. JFK-CDG is international, and thus has no issues.
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OP, go online to airfrance.com and pull up the receipt. You can also call DL who handle Air France in the US and ask. This is what the ticket cost. If it doesn't show a cost then the ticket is an exception fare and would earn the same way even if DL coded.
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The real question is whether it was booked directly with an airline or through a company's travel agency. I tried to do this with a KE flight last year and they said I would have had to have the travel agent from the company rebook it; Delta couldn't take it over and KE basically laughed and said that's not their problem.