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Old Oct 17, 2017, 9:16 pm
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How London to Australia flights have changed

Some fascinating photos from back when.. and then the newer aircraft.

Click the centre of the first photo (of the QF flying boat) to see the slideshow.


From 10 days to nonstop: How London to Australia flights have changed

Rob Hodgetts, CNN • Published 16th October 2017

http://www.cnn.com/travel/article/lo...top/index.html


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Old Oct 17, 2017, 9:47 pm
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Playing golf and a promenade deck?!? Those flying boats must have been larger than they look from the outside.
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Old Oct 17, 2017, 11:49 pm
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[Mod hat] This normally would belong into a destination or more general forum. But since it starts with a strong QF reference I will leave it here for the time being and see how it develops. [/mod hat]
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Old Oct 18, 2017, 12:23 am
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The C class flying boats were supplemented by the Lancastrians.... not replaced. Passengers had the choice of a slighty faster (less comfortable) Lancastrian flight..or the Flying boats...IIRC a Lancastrian was lost in 1946 during that last pre Constellation period....possibly QF's worst loss?

(Edit... BOAC aircraft with QANTAS crew)

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Old Oct 18, 2017, 1:06 am
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Playing golf and a promenade deck?!? Those flying boats must have been larger than they look from the outside.
The article does say that was the "romantic image", with the reality often being very different.

I suspect many would say that today's airline marketing projects a similarly over-optimistic ambience. In fact, marketing now may even be more accurate than it was then, given the legal and other constraints.

And let's face it, it would be amply possible for QF to install golf and a promenade deck on today's aircraft too. An A380 has lots of space for this. It's just that QF chooses not to!
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Old Oct 18, 2017, 4:00 am
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Well it DID say "quoits and golf"... so perhaps a very short putting game?
The Promenade deck existed...but was a VERY short Promenade indeed. It all sounds wonderful except for two things:

1. Given the fares one would have had to be a senior Govt or Military official, or rather wealthy to ever do it... and,

2. The C class operated below 10,00 feet... logically, as they were unpressurised. So..they flew THROUGH the weather we look down on these days from 35000.... Accounts by the early Flight Stewards are quite hair raising....(but fascinating of course)

I DO kick myself for not having - somehow - flown the Ansett Sandringham Flying Boat service to Lord Howe... I am JUST old enough for that to have been a possibility....it was canned in September 74....
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....And let's face it, it would be amply possible for QF to install golf and a promenade deck on today's aircraft too. An A380 has lots of space for this. It's just that QF chooses not to!
Virgin (VS) published drawings of their future A380s having a gym, running track and casino on the A380 (using part of the lower deck which is normally for baggage). Of course they have yet to take delivery of an A380; at least QF got 60% of theirs, even if without putting greens

An interesting feature of the A380 is that it is weight limited, so there is lots of space on the 3rd deck that cannot be used to carry cargo or any heavy fixtures.
The 777 also has this, in a bit over 1.5m of space above the pax cabin (with some plans to put beds up there, but never worked out (yet) due to diffiulty of access).
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Old Oct 19, 2017, 5:22 am
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Originally Posted by Globaliser
The article does say that was the "romantic image", with the reality often being very different.

I suspect many would say that today's airline marketing projects a similarly over-optimistic ambience. In fact, marketing now may even be more accurate than it was then, given the legal and other constraints.

And let's face it, it would be amply possible for QF to install golf and a promenade deck on today's aircraft too. An A380 has lots of space for this. It's just that QF chooses not to!
I agree. It is interesting though that back then flying was very much about being in a boat in the air (quoits??). These days flying is about how comfortable one can be without having to get out of their seat. The difference, presumably, being days not hours in the air.
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One of the more interesting shows on VA inflight at present is ironically a doco on a Melbourne man retracing the journey the flying boats took in his own.
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One of the more interesting shows on VA inflight at present is ironically a doco on a Melbourne man retracing the journey the flying boats took in his own.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/flyin...26-gsaynz.html
https://www.blackincbooks.com.au/boo...e-southern-sun
http://www.southernsun.voyage/
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 11:09 pm
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I can highly recommend "From Sea to Sky"..an Aussie made doco about the Flying Boats.
Especially enjoyed the interview with the (then-2005) QF employee who had been with them...well...forever! lol
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