British Airway Pilots Seek To Oust CEO Walsh
#76
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All I have been stating is that if they have such a problem with the way their airline is being run then speak to the man direct, don't slag him off behind his back on this board.
If you are looking for a legitimate scapecoat try looking in the direction of the BAA for example !
Quite frankly, any member of staff bad mouthing their employer on a public forum is a disgrace to the uniform and were I still in the Legion heads would indeed roll.
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Balls? Me?
Ian,
So, why dont the staff who are complaining write direct to Mr Walsh?
The answer is because they dont have the balls. That is why they hide behind this board. All I have been stating is that if they have such a problem with the way their airline is being run then speak to the man direct, don't slag him off behind his back on this board. Its easy to criticise when that person cannot reply. If you are looking for a legitimate scapecoat try looking in the direction of the BAA for example !
Quite frankly, any member of staff bad mouthing their employer on a public forum is a disgrace to the uniform and were I still in the Legion heads would indeed roll.
BTW Jumbo Martin Broughton is a non runner at the Nottinghamshire venue tomorrow.
So, why dont the staff who are complaining write direct to Mr Walsh?
The answer is because they dont have the balls. That is why they hide behind this board. All I have been stating is that if they have such a problem with the way their airline is being run then speak to the man direct, don't slag him off behind his back on this board. Its easy to criticise when that person cannot reply. If you are looking for a legitimate scapecoat try looking in the direction of the BAA for example !
Quite frankly, any member of staff bad mouthing their employer on a public forum is a disgrace to the uniform and were I still in the Legion heads would indeed roll.
BTW Jumbo Martin Broughton is a non runner at the Nottinghamshire venue tomorrow.
We are holding responsible the man who has told the world that the buck stops with him. I as a shareholder have written to Martin Broughton. I leant a long time ago that if pleased with the service tell your friends, if you are not pleased tell the Boss. We will not presumably be able to tell him anything as he is at the races which is of course where anyone who is the ultimate head of the board of an airline which has been through the worst week ever should be. I suppose that when the full service starts - we cannot say resumes as it never started - he will be up at Aintree. Let's get our priorities straight. Anyhow, we had a lot of annecdotal evidence from Aer Lingus how much notice would be taken of employees. Everything that we heard so far seems to have been fulfilled.
I have no fight with you as I think that I know you. I happen to love my job and this airline to bits. It could be the world's finest but we bow to the Shareholders first and the customers third. We cut and snip at all sort of the bits of service. We now refer the complaints to members of the Board as we are sick of defending when we happen to agree with the passengers. I have no axe to grind with sensible savings. We charge people a lot of money in our premium cabins and then take a staff member off the aircraft - for example.
Anyhow - I am treating this as serious rather than the mischief making as suggested by others. I suspect that you are far closer to Mr Broughton then the co-owner of a horse.
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Why do you really think BA staff post on here in their own time? Is it maybe because they care with passion about their customers and BA. Don't you think we also take the time to feed back issues highlighted on here. Do you really think BA don't know who we are (I'm not that stupid) It was highlighted to us only this week on the staff Intranet that the PR and Brands department monitor FT daily. Pucci is too much of a lady to say so herself but her "balls"
are in no doubt.
CIHY
are in no doubt.
CIHY
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I suspect so too, and despite that - or is it because of that - he STILL can't come up with one single piece of evidence to back his assertion that WW is doing a good job.. Now why would that be?
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Why do you really think BA staff post on here in their own time? Is it maybe because they care with passion about their customers and BA. Don't you think we also take the time to feed back issues highlighted on here. Do you really think BA don't know who we are (I'm not that stupid) It was highlighted to us only this week on the staff Intranet that the PR and Brands department monitor FT daily. Pucci is too much of a lady to say so herself but her "balls"
are in no doubt.
CIHY
are in no doubt.
CIHY
Of course we may not always agree with everything everyone says all of the time, the world is far too complex for that. But I sincerely hope that this doesn't mean the company goes on a witch hunt for staff members who say things management doesn't agree with. That would indeed be petty and sad.
As for brand and PR monitoring FT, that can only be a good thing. We offer a very valuable feedback about customer sentiments and many companies worldwide routinely monitor user forums for precisely that reason. I'm glad BA does the same.
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CIHY (and Pucci and all other staff here), I think all of us (well, obviously there's a few exceptions) value all staff contributions to FT with your wit and insight. FT would not be the same without you. I cannot think of any post by a staff member that might have been written with anything but the company/ shareholder/ customer interest at heart (to the extent that those 3 are aligned).
Of course we may not always agree with everything everyone says all of the time, the world is far too complex for that. But I sincerely hope that this doesn't mean the company goes on a witch hunt for staff members who say things management doesn't agree with. That would indeed be petty and sad.
As for brand and PR monitoring FT, that can only be a good thing. We offer a very valuable feedback about customer sentiments and many companies worldwide routinely monitor user forums for precisely that reason. I'm glad BA does the same.
Of course we may not always agree with everything everyone says all of the time, the world is far too complex for that. But I sincerely hope that this doesn't mean the company goes on a witch hunt for staff members who say things management doesn't agree with. That would indeed be petty and sad.
As for brand and PR monitoring FT, that can only be a good thing. We offer a very valuable feedback about customer sentiments and many companies worldwide routinely monitor user forums for precisely that reason. I'm glad BA does the same.
CIHY
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CIHY (and Pucci and all other staff here), I think all of us (well, obviously there's a few exceptions) value all staff contributions to FT with your wit and insight. FT would not be the same without you. I cannot think of any post by a staff member that might have been written with anything but the company/ shareholder/ customer interest at heart (to the extent that those 3 are aligned).
Of course we may not always agree with everything everyone says all of the time, the world is far too complex for that. But I sincerely hope that this doesn't mean the company goes on a witch hunt for staff members who say things management doesn't agree with. That would indeed be petty and sad.
As for brand and PR monitoring FT, that can only be a good thing. We offer a very valuable feedback about customer sentiments and many companies worldwide routinely monitor user forums for precisely that reason. I'm glad BA does the same.
Of course we may not always agree with everything everyone says all of the time, the world is far too complex for that. But I sincerely hope that this doesn't mean the company goes on a witch hunt for staff members who say things management doesn't agree with. That would indeed be petty and sad.
As for brand and PR monitoring FT, that can only be a good thing. We offer a very valuable feedback about customer sentiments and many companies worldwide routinely monitor user forums for precisely that reason. I'm glad BA does the same.
You are a dear! Thank you for that. I would add that this Lady will keep with this board as long as it has room for and time for her.
I rather think that I must get on with the TFTG in preparation - we all deserve a bit of something a bit more BA Forum like.
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Whether we always agree is of little matter but the fact that you post at all shows how much you care about us the passengers and your airline. I for one really appreciate the insight and information provided by the BA staff and this would be only half a forum if BA staff stopped posting.
I would like to state my sincerest thanks to all BA staff that post to this forum and do hope that you stay around.
And Yes dear it is time for another TFTG - I also think I have some work to do on the MUCCI thread.
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Moomba - can you add Cyba to the ranks please? HIDDY will say that he is crawling - personally I think that he look great on all fours!!
And thank you Sweetheart for those kind words.
Now this Girl must get some sleep I've been up all night and feel as though I am being held together by hairspray.
And thank you Sweetheart for those kind words.
Now this Girl must get some sleep I've been up all night and feel as though I am being held together by hairspray.
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But they have, and they do write to him!
Quick book recommendation for people interested in leadership, airlines and/or Continental:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0471248355/
When is Martin's birthday?
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I suppose the ultimate troll and duplicate handle identification guide would be frowned on by the PTB
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And he has galvanised us into an alliance for the first time that has no sympathy for two luggage-losers! The Model and the DJ!
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