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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by N830MH
Exactly! It could being killed with someone who are dying with bad cocaine, narcotic, marijuana. It will be slip away for cause of the death. It will be very extremely dangerous with someone who smoke with marijuana. IT will be big problems the person who are passed away at home.
Wait, marijuana? really?

Nobody has ever. Ever. EVER. EVER EVER EVER. EVER! died as a direct result of marijuana. Google "Harry Anslinger" to read about the odious human being that is the reason that marijuana is illegal. It's far less harmful than alcohol even. Yeesh.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Bart
Well, what I'm about to reveal is SSI, but you'd probably find out about it sooner or later through the FOIA, but the alarm resolution procedure consists of notifying the supervisor once we get one of these alarms. The STSO then picks up the ETD sampling wand, waves it in the air, and shouts out "Expecto Patronum" to ward off glycerin-based dementors.

There, the cat is finally out of the bag!
nicely done ^ but i think you mean this cat
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 5:39 pm
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Originally Posted by wildcatlh
Wait, marijuana? really?

Nobody has ever. Ever. EVER. EVER EVER EVER. EVER! died as a direct result of marijuana. Google "Harry Anslinger" to read about the odious human being that is the reason that marijuana is illegal. It's far less harmful than alcohol even. Yeesh.
Yes, of course. It will be bad habitable to keep drugs off the streets for good. It will be cause lot the problem all of those life. It will harms someone who is being killed try to drink the alcohol or liquors, too.
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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 5:58 pm
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drug prohibition does more harm than good

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Originally Posted by pmocek
Originally Posted by We Will Never Forget
"Narcotics" makes them more dangerous, thus more in need of funding to combat them.
In the literal sense, the legal sense, and the medical sense. Mostly only in the television drama sense and the misinformed drug warrior sense are those other substances narcotics.
Exactly! It could being killed with someone who are dying with bad cocaine, narcotic, marijuana. It will be slip away. It will be very extremely dangerous with someone who smoke with marijuana. IT will cause big problems the person who are passed away at home.
I suspect that WWNF meant to write that use of the word narcotics (misuse, really) makes those non-narcotic drugs seem more dangerous. I can't tell what N830MH meant to communicate, because what he or she wrote makes very little sense.

In regards to "bad cocaine": As a result of our prohibition of certain drugs, a black market has developed that does result in harm due to adulteration and unknown strength. Very similar things happened with the prohibition of alcohol here 80 years ago. Many of us are wising up, but there's lots of money hinging on continued prohibition. An end to drug prohibition would hurt "funding" for many police departments and prisons, and legal producers would undercut the black market, ending the profit and power that prohibition provides to black market dealers.

Drug dealers tend not to be politically active, but law enforcement and the prison industry are actively resisting changes for the better. Gil Kerlikowske, new director of ONDCP (a.k.a., "the drug czar") and former Chief of Police in Seattle -- where we deprioritized arrest and prosecution of adults for personal possession of cannabis via citizens' initiative, in Washington State where medicinal use of cannabis is legal with a doctor's recommendation -- now recently began to lie about the effects and uses of cannabis. The Director of ONDCP is required by law to resist efforts to legalize cannabis, and seemingly also required to lie about it.

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Nobody has ever. Ever. EVER. EVER EVER EVER. EVER! died as a direct result of marijuana. Google "Harry Anslinger" to read about the odious human being that is the reason that marijuana is illegal. It's far less harmful than alcohol even.
True, good idea, and true. The cannabis plant has been used by people for thousands of years. Some harm is associated with inhaling any smoke, but that of cannabis is not as dangerous as that of tobacco, and there are safer methods of administration (ingestion and vaporization).

The sooner the United States moves from prohibitionist drug policy to regulatory drug policy, the better.

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Old Aug 10, 2009 | 6:05 pm
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Originally Posted by pmocek
I suspect that WWNF meant to write that use of the word narcotics (misuse, really) makes those non-narcotic drugs seem more dangerous.
Yes.
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Yes.
Are you absolutely sure about this?
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Are you absolutely sure about this?
Well, that's an interesting philosophical question. Can any of us really be sure of our inner will when we can have no external verification?
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 3:54 am
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Originally Posted by wildcatlh
Wait, marijuana? really?

Nobody has ever. Ever. EVER. EVER EVER EVER. EVER! died as a direct result of marijuana. Google "Harry Anslinger" to read about the odious human being that is the reason that marijuana is illegal. It's far less harmful than alcohol even. Yeesh.
how do you attribute a car driver who is high wrapping themselves around a power pole and dying? Not a result of marijuana?
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 6:28 am
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Are you absolutely sure about this?
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 7:41 am
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
how do you attribute a car driver who is high wrapping themselves around a power pole and dying? Not a result of marijuana?
Not a direct result of marijuana, no. Same way we say a drunk driver is killed by the crash, not the alcohol.
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
Originally Posted by wildcatlh
Wait, marijuana? really?

Nobody has ever. Ever. EVER. EVER EVER EVER. EVER! died as a direct result of marijuana. Google "Harry Anslinger" to read about the odious human being that is the reason that marijuana is illegal. It's far less harmful than alcohol even. Yeesh.
how do you attribute a car driver who is high wrapping themselves around a power pole and dying? Not a result of marijuana?
Not directly, no. The death would be a result of physical impact. Marijuana doesn't tend to make people drift off to sleep like alcohol does, so this isn't likely. Regardless, if you think such an incident would indicate that people have died as a direct result of marijuana, then you must think that marijuana's danger is in the class of that of sleepiness, which certainly does cause people to drive into stationary objects and die. Would you say that anyone has ever died as a direct result of being sleepy?

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Not a direct result of marijuana, no. Same way we say a drunk driver is killed by the crash, not the alcohol.
Remember that alcohol kills people directly, without the aid of cars. The ratio of effective dose to lethal dose of alcohol is small. There is no lethal dose of the psychoactive components of the cannabis plant.

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by Bart
Well, what I'm about to reveal is SSI, but you'd probably find out about it sooner or later through the FOIA, but the alarm resolution procedure consists of notifying the supervisor once we get one of these alarms. The STSO then picks up the ETD sampling wand, waves it in the air, and shouts out "Expecto Patronum" to ward off glycerin-based dementors.

There, the cat is finally out of the bag!
I have alerted the appropriate authorities that Bart is putting out secret information on the interweb that will allow the terrorists to circumvent procedure. Bart, if you hear any knocks on your door in the next few days, I'd ignore them. Or maybe a mysterious ticking.

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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 12:09 am
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What I suspect really happened is that law enforcement wanted some "probable cause" that would hold up in court for a search that was outside the scope of airport/aircraft security, so an alarm for explosives at the CTX and/or nitroglycerin at the ETD was "triggered".

I hope the suspects' attorneys very carefully cross-examine all those involved with this search. I have a feeling it was contrived, to say the least.
Exactly. The cops had a wiretap, or an informant. Having the ETD "alert" on micrograms of LSD is the high-tech equivalent of "We stopped you because your taillight is burned out."
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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by mbstone
Having the ETD "alert" on micrograms of LSD is the high-tech equivalent of "We stopped you because your taillight is burned out."
Or "the, err, dog gave an indication of drugs so we had PC to search".
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