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Yesterday, 12:26 pm
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Posted By mooper

You can game either program, was my point, but...

You can game either program, was my point, but very few do it to an extreme extent. The most objective measure is nights. If they change anything, giving SPG LTPs with 750+ nights the same treatment...
Yesterday, 7:17 am
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Posted By mooper

Assertions of "scamming" have been discussed...

Assertions of "scamming" have been discussed thoroughly in this thread, and the conclusion has been that Rewarding Events is an intentionally crafted program that boosts meeting revenue and frequency...
Yesterday, 4:13 am
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Posted By mooper

Generosity creates more goodwill to the point...

Generosity creates more goodwill to the point where it's fair, but issuing SPG LTPs with 500-750 nights the same status as MRP LTPs with 750+ nights is not fair because the vast majority from each...
Yesterday, 3:54 am
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Posted By mooper

Most properties don't care and are too busy to...

Most properties don't care and are too busy to check even if they did care. It's actually a favor to them if you miss your meeting - they don't have to do anything but they get the revenue. I usually...
Apr 18, 18, 9:44 pm
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Posted By mooper

All of this is true, but overlooks the fact that...

All of this is true, but overlooks the fact that it's describing rather extreme outliers. Very few Marriott LTPs got there through such extreme methods, and certainly not enough to justify giving...
Apr 18, 18, 12:12 pm
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Posted By mooper

Not only multiple room credit for SPG, but award...

Not only multiple room credit for SPG, but award nights counted for more years than they have with MR, I believe. You're correct though - there are ways to game both programs to make it easier to...
Apr 18, 18, 11:45 am
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Posted By mooper

I take no issue with SPG LTPs with 750+ nights...

I take no issue with SPG LTPs with 750+ nights and 2MIL+ points (or 667K SPG equiv) also being grandfathered to LTPP. Only issue is with *all* SPG LTPs joining that group.

jrothenb summed it up...
Apr 18, 18, 11:31 am
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Posted By mooper

Thank you - very much appreciated by all! ...

Thank you - very much appreciated by all!



Nicely done, I agree. My concern is that some SPG LTPs were arguing that all SPG LTPs should be mapped to the new LTPP, and that would be extremely...
Apr 18, 18, 10:18 am
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Posted By mooper

I've seen mostly complaints about SPG LT Plats as...

I've seen mostly complaints about SPG LT Plats as a group not being mapped, but agree with you that if an exception is made for just 750+ or 1000+ night SPG LT Plats, then it's reasonable.



If...
Apr 18, 18, 9:46 am
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Posted By mooper

SPG LT Plats with 1000+ nights and a ton of LT...

SPG LT Plats with 1000+ nights and a ton of LT points would certainly be on par regarding loyalty, however, the complaints I'm seeing mostly suggest that *all* SPG LT Plats (which includes many...
Apr 18, 18, 7:33 am
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Posted By mooper

Some may be in excess, but many are not, so it's...

Some may be in excess, but many are not, so it's really just the name Platinum that is being focused upon.
The reality is that LT Plat SPG is 50+ nights, and the relevant perks are akin to LT Gold...
Apr 18, 18, 7:23 am
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Posted By mooper

Except for one thing... You can do a few cheap...

Except for one thing... You can do a few cheap meetings to boost your nights to 50 or 75 if needed and get those suites. At least thats what I'm doing this year (I would otherwise end up around 45...
Apr 18, 18, 7:15 am
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Posted By mooper

I don't understand this at all. Why would it be...

I don't understand this at all. Why would it be fair to award LT SPG members who earned LT status at the 50+ night tier the same status as Marriott members who earned LT status at the 75+ night tier?...
Apr 17, 18, 5:07 pm
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Posted By mooper

Current LT SPG Plat (50+ nights) benefits pretty...

Current LT SPG Plat (50+ nights) benefits pretty closely map to the new Marriott LT Plat (50+ nights) benefits, while current LT Marriott Plat (75+ nights) benefits pretty closely map to the new...
Apr 17, 18, 4:36 pm
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Posted By mooper

I don't fly UA enough to get any status, so UA...

I don't fly UA enough to get any status, so UA Silver has substantial value to me, as it gets me free checked bags and other minor perks when I use miles to fly with family. If I was borderline...
Apr 17, 18, 4:22 pm
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Posted By mooper

You can do many rapidly, but I suggest doing 1...

You can do many rapidly, but I suggest doing 1 per day to avoid a situation where they post multiple meetings as one, which would short you the nights.
Apr 17, 18, 2:58 am
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Posted By mooper

The contract gives them 10 days to use the tool...

The contract gives them 10 days to use the tool to post the points, but I never rely upon this. I simply get them to confirm in advance in writing when they will use it to post. They usually reply...
Apr 16, 18, 2:34 am
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Posted By mooper

It's not a "loophole" - it's a well-documented...

It's not a "loophole" - it's a well-documented feature of the rewards program. Many meetings cost 5 figures and up, and it's logical they want to incentivize this now and going forward. Is there a...
Apr 16, 18, 2:09 am
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Views: 448,580
Posted By mooper

Just make a fake/throwaway Twitter account for...

Just make a fake/throwaway Twitter account for this and similar purposes
Apr 8, 18, 6:01 am
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Views: 430,205
Posted By mooper

As soon as staff uses the Group Posting Tool, the...

As soon as staff uses the Group Posting Tool, the points post and then the nights follow automatically. Any "takes X days" is merely to give staff time to use the tool. Instead of guessing or hoping,...
Mar 26, 18, 12:40 am
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Views: 2,225
Posted By mooper

Starwood Lurker, in another thread, suggested...

Starwood Lurker, in another thread, suggested they're just waiting on Marriott to approve the release of the information. He didn't explicitly state that the details are decided and just need to be...
Mar 24, 18, 6:59 am
Replies: 60
Views: 2,225
Posted By mooper

Doing this would discourage aggressive loyalty...

Doing this would discourage aggressive loyalty for those who don't value a diluted mid-tier LT status as their reward. I dont bother with AA or DL when lifetime status considerations are in play...
Mar 23, 18, 8:58 am
Replies: 60
Views: 2,225
Posted By mooper

Great points. The other way to equalize is bring...

Great points. The other way to equalize is bring SPG to the same nights generosity. The benefit there would be, as you said, behaviorial economics, but also the preservation of the incentives for...
Mar 23, 18, 4:34 am
Replies: 60
Views: 2,225
Posted By mooper

I agree on your additional points as well .....

I agree on your additional points as well .. international focus needed, lowest common denominator, etc .I continue to differ only in that I think that lowest common denominator needs to be applied...
Mar 23, 18, 3:29 am
Replies: 60
Views: 2,225
Posted By mooper

I'm with you on all of that, and I think it would...

I'm with you on all of that, and I think it would logical and well-received, with one exception/clarification:

Where you mention BiB night requirements for the newly combined program, are you...
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