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GUWonder Mar 19, 2007 6:08 am


Originally Posted by tommy777 (Post 7428463)
How can it?? The 25% rule was implemented from November 1st 2004... The point ban in Norway came in late 2002 and many BU Wings Gold members came in to the program when the programs were merged in 2003, they would loose their status in 2004 (Braathens was mostly Norway domestic).

Of course the 25% rule has had a large impact on the number of elites, but the point ban in Norway has also been a major factor

There's no singular cause for the hit to the EBG rolls (i.e., multiple causation, to various degrees), but SK's actions/inactions certainly contributed to the decline as well.

jfidler Mar 20, 2007 11:12 am

I realize it varies greatly by flight, route, etc, but any idea of how many EBGs would typically be on a flight? If < 5% of all flyers are EBGs, does that mean that on average, less than a handful of EBGs will be on my flight? This is what I'm always thinking because of op-up opportunities. Maybe it varies way too much by flight/date/etc such that it's not possible to generalize at all.

Justin

fcl Mar 20, 2007 11:37 am


Originally Posted by jfidler (Post 7436655)
I realize it varies greatly by flight, route, etc, but any idea of how many EBGs would typically be on a flight? If < 5% of all flyers are EBGs, does that mean that on average, less than a handful of EBGs will be on my flight? This is what I'm always thinking because of op-up opportunities. Maybe it varies way too much by flight/date/etc such that it's not possible to generalize at all.

Justin

I guess you need to take frequency of flying into consideration as the EBG flies many more times a year than the average non-frequent flyer.

Point_Chaser Mar 20, 2007 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by jfidler (Post 7436655)
I realize it varies greatly by flight, route, etc, but any idea of how many EBGs would typically be on a flight? If < 5% of all flyers are EBGs, does that mean that on average, less than a handful of EBGs will be on my flight? This is what I'm always thinking because of op-up opportunities. Maybe it varies way too much by flight/date/etc such that it's not possible to generalize at all.

Justin

It can be anything from 100% EBG (has happened on ARN-GOT) to 0% I believe... Varies A LOT on route and day. Peak times there are a lot more EBGs than not. That's why the chances for upgrades are better on off-peak times and weekends and holidays when there are (in my experience) fewer of us frequent flyers travelling... :)

oliver2002 Mar 20, 2007 12:49 pm

You can check the number of EBG/ elite pax by looking at the flight manifest that hangs in the galleys during a flight. 5-10% of the pax usually is EBS, EBG or *S/G.

GUWonder Mar 20, 2007 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by Point_Chaser (Post 7437260)
It can be anything from 100% EBG (has happened on ARN-GOT) to 0% I believe... Varies A LOT on route and day. Peak times there are a lot more EBGs than not. That's why the chances for upgrades are better on off-peak times and weekends and holidays when there are (in my experience) fewer of us frequent flyers travelling... :)

Exactly. A look at the passenger manifest, where possible, is often interesting.

SK_RSJ Mar 20, 2007 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by jfidler (Post 7436655)
I realize it varies greatly by flight, route, etc, but any idea of how many EBGs would typically be on a flight? If < 5% of all flyers are EBGs, does that mean that on average, less than a handful of EBGs will be on my flight? This is what I'm always thinking because of op-up opportunities. Maybe it varies way too much by flight/date/etc such that it's not possible to generalize at all.

Justin


A quick look at the manifest for high density route ARN-GOT this morning (07.05) gave about 60 EBG, 1 EBP, about 10 EBS and 1 LH*G.
On the other hand, ARN-VXO last week I was the only EBG.

Once on a (not so full) ARN-EWR I asked the GS and she said there was only 2 EBGs (one was me) in M.

So the short answer is - it varies.

ph-ndr Mar 20, 2007 11:10 pm

Take any morning flight on BGO-OSL, OSL-CPH or any of the main intra scandinavian routes and it tends to be EBG's to the rafters on most flights.

-A

tommy777 Mar 22, 2007 12:37 am


Originally Posted by ph-ndr (Post 7441369)
Take any morning flight on BGO-OSL, OSL-CPH or any of the main intra scandinavian routes and it tends to be EBG's to the rafters on most flights.

-A

For sure.. OSL-ARN flights are extreme. When the new 2 class service starts on intra Scandinavian we can again clearly see where SAS makes their money.. Back in the days when these routes had C, the divider could be in row 25 on the MDs..

ph-ndr Mar 22, 2007 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by tommy777 (Post 7447845)
For sure.. OSL-ARN flights are extreme. When the new 2 class service starts on intra Scandinavian we can again clearly see where SAS makes their money.. Back in the days when these routes had C, the divider could be in row 25 on the MDs..

I had a morning flight BGO-CPH (if memory serves) where three of us shared the last two rows, being the only M class. We had a single crew serve us first and then help out "up front"... really nice one. :)

-A


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