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KRS Feb 15, 2006 6:50 am

EB Points for *A Codeshare (non SK)
 
Sorry if this has been discussed previously but I could not find any post dealing specifically with this question.

Does EB award points on *A codeshares as if the flight was operated by the codeshare airline or does the operating carrier come into play? This is assuming the operating carrier is *A also.

Specifically, what will be the point earning on LH codeshare (BD operated) flights between AMS and LHR, assuming a LH booking that earns 100% points according to scandinavian.net (Y,B,M,H,Q,V,S)? The bmi website states 25% earning for V and W booking class (based on mileage of 800).

Finally, any ideas on how to maximize the point earning - given that I pay for my own flights :( - when commuting weekly between Amsterdam and London? I guess flying LH with one stop in each direction should give me in 2400 points per roundtrip in Economy?

Thanks!

jacob_m Feb 15, 2006 7:29 am


Originally Posted by KRS
Specifically, what will be the point earning on LH codeshare (BD operated) flights between AMS and LHR, assuming a LH booking that earns 100% points according to scandinavian.net (Y,B,M,H,Q,V,S)? The bmi website states 25% earning for V and W booking class (based on mileage of 800).

Finally, any ideas on how to maximize the point earning - given that I pay for my own flights :( - when commuting weekly between Amsterdam and London? I guess flying LH with one stop in each direction should give me in 2400 points per roundtrip in Economy?

Thanks!

I have bought LH codeshare tickets many times.
You get BMI points, no matter if you buy the ticket from LH with LH-prefix.
The good thing is that you do not need to worry about Tiny fares and such.

Flying AMS-LHR via FRA or MUC you should probably get 2400 points return (1200 points each way).
But the cheaper tickets (below booking class B or H or so) do usually not allow transfers via FRA or MUC.
I have tried to book CDG-LHR on LH via FRA myself for the same reason (and to avoid BMI) but it ended up being quite expensive.
Almost all cheap/medium-priced tickets AMS/BRU/CDG-LHR booked through LH only allow travel on direct flights.

SK_RSJ Feb 15, 2006 7:30 am

EB earnings are based on metal flown and ticketed class. So if you book a LH codeshare in V which is operated by BD you need to look in to the chart what BD gives to EB for V.

This IS confusing stuff, we all agree.

jacob_m Feb 15, 2006 7:41 am


Originally Posted by SK_RSJ
So if you book a LH codeshare in V which is operated by BD you need to look in to the chart what BD gives to EB for V.

I wonder if that 25% earning is valid for all V-class tickets or only V-class tickets which are booked as so-called "Tiny Fares".

I haven't flown BMI for ages. Anybody with more recent experiences?

BMI has always awarded 100% points before on V-class tickets before...

Balboa Feb 15, 2006 12:09 pm

It goes even further, some prices and classes booked on Code-share does not exist on the same route for the operating carrier. Like STO-MAD on *SK operated by JK..it was booked in S-class but when it entered my account it was coverted to U-class on JK-flightnumber.

So you cant always trust that V-class booked on LH-prefix operated by BD will be V-class on BD, it mostly is but not always.

And yes, I belive the 25% earnings applies on tiny-fares. :td:

KRS Feb 15, 2006 12:57 pm

Thanks!
 

Originally Posted by jacob_m
Flying AMS-LHR via FRA or MUC you should probably get 2400 points return (1200 points each way).
But the cheaper tickets (below booking class B or H or so) do usually not allow transfers via FRA or MUC.
I have tried to book CDG-LHR on LH via FRA myself for the same reason (and to avoid BMI) but it ended up being quite expensive.
Almost all cheap/medium-priced tickets AMS/BRU/CDG-LHR booked through LH only allow travel on direct flights.

Yeah, this is what I have been seeing when searching as well.


Anyway, thanks for your answers guys. I think I might reconsider trying to keep EBG, and aim for BA Gold instead considering their restricted business fares are ~EUR220 return.

SK_RSJ Feb 16, 2006 12:20 am


Originally Posted by KRS
I think I might reconsider trying to keep EBG, and aim for BA Gold instead considering their restricted business fares are ~EUR220 return.

Makes sense, please send a letter to EB if you decide to go OW way... :rolleyes:

ksu Feb 16, 2006 1:37 am

If I knew I would be able to make BA Gold, I certainly would go the OW way, seeing that I could get lounge access at OSL while flying DOM SK (or even DY), something that SK refuses to give their own EBGs

TQ5223 Feb 16, 2006 9:15 am

I got this a little while ago from Eurobonus in Bangkok. Does it make sense?

"We regret that we are unable to retroactively credit points on this occasion.
(BD2506: SA236/30SEP05)

Please note that certain BD - BMI flight numbers are operated by SA - South African Airways not included in the agreement between BMI and EuroBonus."

It was ticketed as BD but operated by SA. :confused:

jacob_m Feb 16, 2006 9:53 am


Originally Posted by TQ5223
I got this a little while ago from Eurobonus in Bangkok. Does it make sense?

"We regret that we are unable to retroactively credit points on this occasion.
(BD2506: SA236/30SEP05)

Please note that certain BD - BMI flight numbers are operated by SA - South African Airways not included in the agreement between BMI and EuroBonus."

It was ticketed as BD but operated by SA. :confused:

You flew UK-South Africa if I got it right? (BD probably wouldn't codeshare flight not originating in the UK)

The fact that the flight had BD-prefix and your ticket was booked as BD-codeshare has nothing to do with the point earnings, it's based on metal flown.
You should points for flying SAA which means extra points.

Seems like they made a mistake there.
However you can only retro-register points up to six months after the flight if that has any impact in your case.

Balboa Feb 17, 2006 2:38 am

Yes that is Weird since SA237 is JNB-LHR and can be claimed (extra points pnly) but anyways..You can claim it as a SA-flight.

But no points in E or W-class on SA if that was the case.

TQ5223 Feb 17, 2006 7:48 am

It was ticketed as JNB-LHR BD2506 and H-class. So this should be an eligible fare, right?



Originally Posted by Balboa
Yes that is Weird since SA237 is JNB-LHR and can be claimed (extra points pnly) but anyways..You can claim it as a SA-flight.

But no points in E or W-class on SA if that was the case.


Balboa Feb 17, 2006 9:18 am

Cant see any reason why it should not. But I have heard that sometimes in theese cases it might be different. Like flying SK-metal CPH-BJS but bought on Air China-flightnumbers=no points.

In Swedish Only: from www.sas.se
"Du tjänar inga poäng när du reser på sträckorna Köpenhamn - Beijing/Shanghai eller Köpenhamn/Stockholm - St. Petersburg om du har köpt en biljett vars flygnummer börjar med CA eller FV (t ex CA195). "

Translation
"You dont earn points CPH-BJS or CPH/STO-LED when flightnumbers are CA or FV" So in this case the metal is SK but no points to be earned.

So mayeb it might be something like this, but I should try again with Bangkok first and claim it as a SA-flight.

TQ5223 Feb 20, 2006 9:06 pm

No points...Out of luck this time I guess.

We regret to confirm that this case is not possible to arrual points. It is correct that both BD and SA are partners of EuroBonus program. However, the accrual agreements are only bilateral between EuroBonus and BD/SA. In other words, you would earn points when you take BD-operated flights on BD ticket, and when you take SA-operated flights on SA ticket.

henry999 Feb 20, 2006 9:32 pm


Originally Posted by TQ5223
No points...Out of luck this time I guess.

We regret to confirm that this case is not possible to arrual points. It is correct that both BD and SA are partners of EuroBonus program. However, the accrual agreements are only bilateral between EuroBonus and BD/SA. In other words, you would earn points when you take BD-operated flights on BD ticket, and when you take SA-operated flights on SA ticket.

Wow! Talk about Catch-22! However, this will certainly change when SA comes up to speed in *A.

cheers,

Henry


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