Skatteverket asks for names of Sweden-based EBD members
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Given how busy/slow the Supreme Administrative Court can be in Stockholm, make sure to keep appealing it up to that court if you need to and can do so. I am sure that there are more than a few judges there that find the bureaucratic actions to be clownish too often and thus need to check the bureaucrats' work.
So who here is breathing a sigh of relief for not being an SK*G?
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I think I will be ok anyway... I'm just a lowly EBD with <500k points on the books and most of the time just hit the 90k status but do not exceed it massively
And spend more than enough points on official business travel, either the tickets itself or upgrades. But proving that, will be a PiA.
And spend more than enough points on official business travel, either the tickets itself or upgrades. But proving that, will be a PiA.
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I think I will be ok anyway... I'm just a lowly EBD with <500k points on the books and most of the time just hit the 90k status but do not exceed it massively
And spend more than enough points on official business travel, either the tickets itself or upgrades. But proving that, will be a PiA.
And spend more than enough points on official business travel, either the tickets itself or upgrades. But proving that, will be a PiA.
On the other hand, there was that incident a couple of years ago when the authorities complained that the Swedish post didn't properly declare your shipments to customs when you ordered something from China for 10 kr. They now properly charge you 2.50 kr in VAT on the goods, a 60 kr handling fee and 15 kr VAT on the handling fee.
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On the other hand, there was that incident a couple of years ago when the authorities complained that the Swedish post didn't properly declare your shipments to customs when you ordered something from China for 10 kr. They now properly charge you 2.50 kr in VAT on the goods, a 60 kr handling fee and 15 kr VAT on the handling fee.
Was just lucky that my employer picked up the invoices from tax laywer.
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I suspect that they are looking for very obvious cases. For example, you own a company and pay all of the company's expenses with your personal credit card, earning lots of points. Or you are involved in organised crime but officially you are unemployed and the tax authority notes that you have taken lots of flights (both revenue and award) and the tax authority wonders how those flights were funded. For less obvious cases, it's too much trouble for too little gain.
On the other hand, there was that incident a couple of years ago when the authorities complained that the Swedish post didn't properly declare your shipments to customs when you ordered something from China for 10 kr. They now properly charge you 2.50 kr in VAT on the goods, a 60 kr handling fee and 15 kr VAT on the handling fee.
On the other hand, there was that incident a couple of years ago when the authorities complained that the Swedish post didn't properly declare your shipments to customs when you ordered something from China for 10 kr. They now properly charge you 2.50 kr in VAT on the goods, a 60 kr handling fee and 15 kr VAT on the handling fee.
How much manufactured spending activity goes on with Eurobonus-earning bank cards in Sweden? Are EuroBonus points earned from personal spending on EuroBonus-earning bank cards taxable in Sweden? Are store points generated by buying say groceries taxable when the grocery purchases are part of manufactured spend on goods that are sold by the retail buyer at the purchase price or even a discount on the purchase price?
Are the trades people who are often self-employed or employed in companies where they have a controlling/beneficial ownership stake -- like the many people who work in the building-related trades (construction, electrical, plumbing, etc.) -- not subject to the same attention as the SAS high-flyers for using personal bank/loyalty program cards when buying goods/services that are reimbursed by the customer/employer? Big or small fish, the game should be played on the same rules applied consistently for all subject to the jurisdiction's rules.
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If Sweden plans to use the EBD ranks to try to find organized crime figures in Sweden, they really are barking up the wrong tree and should have the hounds go hunting on richer grounds and let it be the criminal-hunting hounds rather than the likely Skatteverket people to do this EBD hunt at this point.
How much manufactured spending activity goes on with Eurobonus-earning bank cards in Sweden? Are EuroBonus points earned from personal spending on EuroBonus-earning bank cards taxable in Sweden? Are store points generated by buying say groceries taxable when the grocery purchases are part of manufactured spend on goods that are sold by the retail buyer at the purchase price or even a discount on the purchase price?
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I don't know about the IT capabilities of our tax friends but surely they would know who has a lot of expenses paid by their employer. Combine that with the list of EBD and you can eliminate a few. Then possibly figure out a way to find people who redeemed lots of points but don't have the income to have earned these points on their own. I can't see that many cases if they're not looking for specific individuals. If you're employed by the government at any level or any of its agencies it could be a problem of course if you're found.
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Skattepliktig bilfrmn - taxable benefit for the company car
Drivmedel vid bilfrmn - taxable benefit for the fuel for said rental car
vriga skattepliktiga frmner - all other taxable benefits, this would include the bonus points.
Bostadsfrmn - company paid housing
Bilersttning - mileage for using the own car as a service vehicle
Traktamente - per diem for travel
Actually worked with my accountant and they said, I won't need to report anything regading Bilersttning or Traktamente if this gets just paid via an expense reimbursement mechanism. Only needs to be reported to SKV if if is part of the paycheck and reported on the pay slip.
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That's sort of what prompted me to ask about Swedish manufactured spend to generate Eurobonus points. In the US there are a population of people earning huge amounts of points per year on personal card transactions by doing manufactured spending on the cards while legitimately having rather low incomes.
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That's sort of what prompted me to ask about Swedish manufactured spend to generate Eurobonus points. In the US there are a population of people earning huge amounts of points per year on personal card transactions by doing manufactured spending on the cards while legitimately having rather low incomes while doing so.
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Well, sure... in theory you could set up shop on the parking garage of a mall and hand everybody your AMEX referrer link on a card and hope some will sign up. Or pay the fees for the manufacturing spending since you find it good value. But in these cases it will be trivial to show SKV that the points were not "earned" as "income". Well, we might argue about handing out the referrer links.
Maybe Skatteverket should go after the real goldmine of data: the data from the bank card issuers.
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Well, sure... in theory you could set up shop on the parking garage of a mall and hand everybody your AMEX referrer link on a card and hope some will sign up. Or pay the fees for the manufacturing spending since you find it good value. But in these cases it will be trivial to show SKV that the points were not "earned" as "income". Well, we might argue about handing out the referrer links.
https://www.skatteverket.se/privat/s...680003940.html
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What about Monaco?
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The begging tax was apparently abolished when Sweden abolished gift tax in 2004. A quick Google search found this: https://juridiktillalla.se/fraga/201...geri-beskattas