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Old Jul 29, 19, 9:40 pm
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Is it gonna work, probably. Is it allowed, probably not.

​​​​​Iirc the rules say that the (free) guest has to leave the lounge with you.
Otherwise you could just get your first guest into the SAS lounge, leave and get your second guest in the LH lounge, leave and get your third guest into the SAS lounge, leave and go to the second guest in the LH lounge. And all that for free.
(Am I the only one who has to think of the wolf, goat, cabbage brain teaser now :P)
Obviously that isn't allowed and the example should only underline the obvious misuse that would otherwise be allowed.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 12:07 am
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Originally Posted by Chiller3333 View Post
Is it gonna work, probably. Is it allowed, probably not.

​​​​​Iirc the rules say that the (free) guest has to leave the lounge with you.
Where have you seen that rule? I've seen it stated many places that you and your guest don't need to be on the same flight. You just need to both be on *A flights. That to me imply that you don't need to leave together, and how should they be able to police you leaving together.

Originally Posted by Chiller3333 View Post
Otherwise you could just get your first guest into the SAS lounge, leave and get your second guest in the LH lounge, leave and get your third guest into the SAS lounge, leave and go to the second guest in the LH lounge. And all that for free.
It will probably not work, since you boarding card is registered when you enter the lounge and so is your guest boarding card. If you come back 10 min. later with another guest, I'm pretty sure you would be told you already used your quota of guests.

Originally Posted by Chiller3333 View Post
(Am I the only one who has to think of the wolf, goat, cabbage brain teaser now :P)
Obviously that isn't allowed and the example should only underline the obvious misuse that would otherwise be allowed.
Bringing one guest into the SK lounge and another into the LH lounge is in the gray zone, but it might be within the rules. There are no rules preventing you from visiting all *G lounges if you have the time for it. And as they are independent lounges, why shouldn't you be allowed to bring a guest to each of them, and why do that guest have to be the same?

That said. I'm not in favor of bringing 2 guests into 2 different lounges, IMHO it's misuse of *G benefits despite it's probably within the rules.
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Old Jul 30, 19, 1:44 am
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I have taken my wife into one lounge, left that lounge and taken another guest into another lounge. No issue at all. Not against the rules either. But you can't rinse and repeat, the LH lounge entrance system notices.

Again, I would ask nicely at the LH checkin what they would suggest you should do.

BTW the 'Art' lounge sells access via loungebuddy for 40$. Waste of money
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Old Jul 30, 19, 6:59 am
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Lufthansa has it on their website:
https://www.lufthansa.com/us/en/lounge-types-and-access

Footnote 6 reads:
For admission to Senator and Business Lounges, travelling companions must show a valid boarding pass for a Lufthansa/Star Alliance flight departing on the same day. Travelling companions must leave the lounge together with the person inviting them.

I thought that was a general rule.
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Old Oct 19, 19, 6:15 am
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Originally Posted by BJfly View Post
Hoping someone can help me with this. I have star alliance gold an am travelling on Lufthansa from Newark. I will have my wife and 2 teenagers traveling with me. As star alliance gold I can get 2 into the lounge. I am willing to purchase the other two entrances. But I can't figure out how to do it.
I can provide some clarity at least from watching the group in front of me at the SAS lounge in Oslo. If you are flying Lufthansa (or presumably any other Star Alliance airline from OSL) then SAS would be delighted to lift NOK 279 (27€) off you, per person, to grant admission. Their boarding passes were laid out for LH prime flights, so it wasn't a Sold As SAS codeshare booking.

Having read this thread , the SAS and Lufthansa websites it is certainly confusing: the SAS lounge area clearly says "Star Alliance travellers can buy admission", their terms and conditions appear to imply only SAS customers can do so, and Lufthansa's website focuses on the free admission for one guest only for (e.g.) Senators, and the companion purchase system, but doesn't mention the SAS system is potentially available to Senators with more than 1 guest or travelling with children.

I can't see a way of Lufthansa / M&M travellers getting the online discount, since SAS's Manage My Booking is information only for Lufthansa bookings.
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Old Oct 19, 19, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
I can provide some clarity at least from watching the group in front of me at the SAS lounge in Oslo. If you are flying Lufthansa (or presumably any other Star Alliance airline from OSL) then SAS would be delighted to lift NOK 279 (27€) off you, per person, to grant admission. Their boarding passes were laid out for LH prime flights, so it wasn't a Sold As SAS codeshare booking.

Having read this thread , the SAS and Lufthansa websites it is certainly confusing: the SAS lounge area clearly says "Star Alliance travellers can buy admission", their terms and conditions appear to imply only SAS customers can do so, and Lufthansa's website focuses on the free admission for one guest only for (e.g.) Senators, and the companion purchase system, but doesn't mention the SAS system is potentially available to Senators with more than 1 guest or travelling with children.

I can't see a way of Lufthansa / M&M travellers getting the online discount, since SAS's Manage My Booking is information only for Lufthansa bookings.
You are mixing up different rulesets. The SK lounges are not freely available to any pax flying LH metal unless they are flying business or have *G status, in which case it's the *A ruleset which grants them access to the *A lounge, not the SK ruleset granting them access to the SK lounge. All SK lounges world wide are also *A lounges.
If the pax's above were flying on SK metal on LH tickets it would be the SK and *A rules which grants the lounge access, not the LH rules.

If I should try to simplify how the rules are applied.
  • SK lounge access rules applies to SK owned and contracted lounges for anyone flying SK metal no matter who sold the ticket and no matter whether the flight number on the ticket and boarding card is a SK flight number or a code share flight number. The rules do not apply to anyone not flying SK metal.
  • LH lounge access rules applies to LH owned and contracted lounges for anyone flying LH metal no matter who sold the ticket and no matter whether the flight number on the ticket and boarding card is a LH flight number or a code share flight number. The rules do not apply to anyone not flying LH metal.
  • *A lounge access rules applies to *A lounges for anyone flying *A metal no matter who sold the ticket and no matter whether the flight number on the ticket and boarding card is a *A flight number or a code share flight number. The rules do not apply to anyone not flying *A metal.
  • *A lounges and *A airline owned lounges are normally the same. *A airline contracted lounges are normally not *A lounges.

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Old Oct 19, 19, 7:30 am
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Originally Posted by highupinthesky View Post
You are mixing up different rulesets. The SK lounges are not freely available to any pax flying LH metal unless they are flying business or have *G status, in which case it's the *A ruleset which grants them access to the *A lounge. All SK lounges world wide are also *A lounges.
The question I was answering is from post 1 - the ambiguity as to whether SAS' paid access applies to prime Lufthansa for those without status, or those beyond their Star Alliance guesting allowance. This isn't about gratis admission. In this case they were Brussels' ticket holders, Lufthansa prime but in economy and they were without status.
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Old Oct 19, 19, 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
The question I was answering is from post 1 - the ambiguity as to whether SAS' paid access applies to prime Lufthansa for those without status, or those beyond their Star Alliance guesting allowance. This isn't about gratis admission. In this case they were Brussels' ticket holders, Lufthansa prime but in economy and they were without status.
*A access might still apply when you don't have *G status. Like if you have a Miles&More account without *G status and you fly business on *A metal. In this case the *A rules still grants you access to a *A business lounge incl. the SK business lounge in OSL.

Like I wrote before. There are several rulesets which might grant you lounge access. Some rules overlap, while others don't. The LH ruleset do not grant you any access to an SK lounge. Only the *A ruleset does. Both LH and SK have adopted some of the *A rules into their public ruleset, like business lounge access to any *A airline business lounge when flying business on any *A metal. This is actually a *A rule which has been adopted into the public ruleset on the SK webpages.
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