Upgrade for points on LH
 

LH states that I should refer to the SK site to find out about how to upgrade for points so I assume this is the right place to ask the question.

I will be travelling long haul on LH (out in Economy and return in Premium Economy). I'd like to upgrade using my EB points, preferably to Business but to Premium Economy on the outbound would also be okay.

Accoring to SK's website I can upgrade from Economy to Business if I am booked in Y or B. I believe they are "Full Economy" tickets. If booking on lh.com I can't book those classes so I'd have to get our company travel office to book it in Y or B. If I book online I get Q for the Economy trip and E for the Premium Economy trip.

My question is if it is correctly understood that it has to be a Y or B ticket and that I can't even go from E to Business when using EB points?

Is there any other way to get upgraded? Can I for instance bid for an upgrade with EB points or does have to M&M Miles?

If I were you I'd ask EB this question. Many * FFP allow nowadays to upgrade LH's booking class E and G.

Also keep in mind that the award booking class I needs to be available for your flight to be upgradable with points.
You can't use EB points, but money works.

If you ask your TA to look in to booking Y or B, you will probably find them more expensive than P or Z. Unless your company has a healthy corporate agreement with Lufthansa.

It is possible to upgrade on LH using EB points. It's called *A upgrade, and you find it on your EB pages after you login. Under Use points - Upgrade - Star Alliance upgrade. It's not a plusgrade bidding. It's a confirmed upgrade at a fixed price. But be aware that LH tends not to release the *A seats until like 2 weeks ahead of scheduled departure

That's only for F awards

A LH B or Y fare will be so expensive that you will quickly forget about upgrading with your EB points. Much cheaper to buy a N or P/Z fare from the outset to get directly into PE or J respectively.

Depending on the route, an LH bid upgrade can be a very good idea.

I don't find it harder to do *A upgrade than *A award flights, so I'm not sure what you mean about it being difficult. As I read most of the posts here, they are around buying the bizz tickets directly instead of going through the upgrade or LH upgrade using miles & more or EB upgrades on SK metal. None of these are related to the *A upgrade.

People are recommending alternatives, as the value proposition of the *A upgrade from Y is pretty low. If not absolutely zero. Driven by the price of the tickets that are upgradable.

The value from PY is better, but SK does not include LH PY as an option at the moment. From J to F it is pretty good for corporate travellers who are usually in the flexible booking classes. Provided O availability shows up.
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As the *A upgrade and awards are looking at the same inventory, of course it is not more difficult to find space. But the underlying condition for the upgrade from Y or B makes it all the more unlikely to be fulfill the conditions of the upgrade.

Try to think about this differently, SASegments: it may well be worth to pay cash for the LH bid to a higher class, and use the points somewhere else where you could consider using cash (a suitable redemption for vacation, an upgrade on an SK flight etc). Upgrades on LH from economy, are just not a good deal, and we don't recommend it here. Using points profitably, in general, is much harder than the marketing materials from Eurobonus (or any other FFP) would like you to believe when you are joining.

You can ask your employer to book the flight completely on points and get the taxes and fees reimbursed. Used to work for me working at some big companies in DE and SE.

Or save the points for the next LH with the family. If yo call SK, they can probably put together a ticket where one or more of the seats will be award seats and the rest for money.