SAS pilots on strike in April 2019

Old Apr 3, 19, 5:10 pm
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SAS pilots on strike in April 2019

SAS pilots are threatening to strike at the end of April.
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Old Apr 4, 19, 1:12 am
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SAS pilots are threatening to strike at the end of April.
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Press release of the SAS pilot group in Danish, Norwegian or Swedish: April 2, 2019 ? SAS Pilot Group
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Thanks Janizar.

Oresundstag trains may be out this coming Monday due to yet more strike action of sort. So it will be back to replacement buses to get across the bridge if taking the trains (unless using SJ).
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Old Apr 4, 19, 4:02 pm
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That strike by DSB employees disrupted all Oresundstag passengers trains between Denmark and Sweden (including in the opposite direction) at the time too.
Yes, that's correct. Traditionally, trains were operated by national train companies, one in each country, and on an international train the crew would change at the border, either at the last station before the border or at the first station after the border. Things have started to change and many international trains now run without a change of crew at the border, but the old tradition is still followed on some trains.

Öresundståg/Øresundstog crew changes near the border, either in Malmö Central or in Copenhagen. The Danish crew works for DSB and was obviously striking, and it seems that they decided to cancel all trains between Malmö and Copenhagen instead of running half of them with Swedish crew.

The Danish brand Øresundstog has officially been dropped by DSB; the trains are now referred to as regular regional trains (DSB Re) within Denmark. However, they are still officially called Öresundståg in Sweden.

SJ's trains between Copenhagen and Stockholm only use Swedish crew and so were presumably unaffected. The trains between Copenhagen and Hamburg change between Danish crew and German crew at Puttgarden in Germany and so presumably weren't running between Copenhagen and Puttgarden.
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Gotta love these banana republic countries that let strikes affect critical infrastructure and transportation.

Do SK's overpaid bus drivers need their annual media fame and a few days off?
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Old Apr 6, 19, 9:28 pm
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Gotta love these banana republic countries that let strikes affect critical infrastructure and transportation.

Do SK's overpaid bus drivers need their annual media fame and a few days off?
Spring fever and summer madness seems to strike. They don’t seem to strike so much during the more boring parts of winter, right?
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Spring fever and summer madness seems to strike. They don’t seem to strike so much during the more boring parts of winter, right?
Nothing to do with the weather - it's the timing when the unions have meetings with employers.
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Nothing to do with the weather - it's the timing when the unions have meetings with employers.
Unions have meetings with employers more than once or twice a year, even as the timing and substance of some meetings tend to lead to more likelihood for strikes at some times than other times and substance of some meetings.

Remember that last Danish police summer strike of sorts that made passport control at CPH more of a “what’s in my kinder egg today” guessing game?

There definitely seems to be something about striking of sorts in this region too that tends to be more likely when the weather is better than average or there’s a weekend or holiday break around which to strike and get a longer time off of sorts with better weather to boot.

I am now waiting for the unions’ fan/member base/beneficiaries and national/system apologists to throw rocks my way, even as my complaint is about strikes impacting me rather than about the strength and role of unions.
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Traditionally, the collective bargaining agreements expired and were renegotiated in the spring time, as employees are mainly allowed to take strike action in connection with this point of the process most strikes have occurred in the spring period. This has not been an effect of the weather, but rather an effect of the process.
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Traditionally, the collective bargaining agreements expired and were renegotiated in the spring time, as employees are mainly allowed to take strike action in connection with this point of the process most strikes have occurred in the spring period. This has not been an effect of the weather, but rather an effect of the process.
It’s not a case of “either A or B”. Rather it’s a matter of whether B and C correspond to a strike being more likely to hit at a given time of year and day of week in a particular year than in a prior year.
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It’s not a case of “either A or B”. Rather it’s a matter of whether B and C correspond to a strike being more likely to hit at a given time of year and day of week in a particular year than in a prior year.
I am not quite sure what you are saying here, but as I read it it goes along the lines of a seemingly statistical correlation of things that are actually unrelated. But that may be a slightly biased reading

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Spring fever and summer madness seems to strike. They don’t seem to strike so much during the more boring parts of winter, right?
Please note that the reason for the strike is that SAS chose to cancel the collective agreement with the union. It was the airline's choice to initiate a conflict during the spring, not the union's or the pilots' choice. SAS could have cancelled the contract earlier if they would have preferred a conflict during the boring winter.
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Please note that the reason for the strike is that SAS chose to cancel the collective agreement with the union. It was the airline's choice to initiate a conflict during the spring, not the union's or the pilots' choice. SAS could have cancelled the contract earlier if they would have preferred a conflict during the boring winter.
If we are being precise, it is not the collective agreement that was cancelled but agreements around it. Since SK seemingly wants to negotiate it as a whole with the collective bargaining agreements

It is true they could have cancelled those at any time, but it probably makes sense to tie the two areas together.

Now they are headed for mediation as required by law. And a good bet is that there will be an agreement that SK say is too expensive they pilots will call to meagre and yet they will agree. And we will not have a strike this time either.

The statements from SK and from the pilot group are all part of the show, and are no meant truths, but as part of the posturing before the mediation.
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Originally Posted by RedChili View Post
Please note that the reason for the strike is that SAS chose to cancel the collective agreement with the union. It was the airline's choice to initiate a conflict during the spring, not the union's or the pilots' choice. SAS could have cancelled the contract earlier if they would have preferred a conflict during the boring winter.
The pilots had an option to pull out of the 3 year collective agreement after 2 years. They chose too use this option not SAS. The agreement was signed back in April 2017, and therefore we now have the negotiations and strike warnings. The good news is the pilots have learned for previous years and therefore are not going to strike during the Easter peak.
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