SAS pilots on strike in April 2019
Apr 9, 2019, 4:48 pm
#17
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The current strike warning is for April 26th in all three countries
In all three countries mediation between the parties is mandatory, and the mediation institution will postpone any potential strike action from this date. Forligsinstitutionen (the mediation in Denmark) has the power to postpone the strike for up to times 11 days, not working days but days. Can someone chip in with the possible extensions for Norway and Sweden, as I don't know the laws there.
To make it clear, we don't know if there will be a strike. We will not know anything until around the 25th/26th of Aorim which is when any need for mediation will be announced, and the first extension of the strike warnings will be announced as well.
In all three countries mediation between the parties is mandatory, and the mediation institution will postpone any potential strike action from this date. Forligsinstitutionen (the mediation in Denmark) has the power to postpone the strike for up to times 11 days, not working days but days. Can someone chip in with the possible extensions for Norway and Sweden, as I don't know the laws there.
To make it clear, we don't know if there will be a strike. We will not know anything until around the 25th/26th of Aorim which is when any need for mediation will be announced, and the first extension of the strike warnings will be announced as well.
Apr 10, 2019, 1:29 pm
#18
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The current strike warning is for April 26th in all three countries
In all three countries mediation between the parties is mandatory, and the mediation institution will postpone any potential strike action from this date. Forligsinstitutionen (the mediation in Denmark) has the power to postpone the strike for up to times 11 days, not working days but days. Can someone chip in with the possible extensions for Norway and Sweden, as I don't know the laws there.
To make it clear, we don't know if there will be a strike. We will not know anything until around the 25th/26th of Aorim which is when any need for mediation will be announced, and the first extension of the strike warnings will be announced as well.
In all three countries mediation between the parties is mandatory, and the mediation institution will postpone any potential strike action from this date. Forligsinstitutionen (the mediation in Denmark) has the power to postpone the strike for up to times 11 days, not working days but days. Can someone chip in with the possible extensions for Norway and Sweden, as I don't know the laws there.
To make it clear, we don't know if there will be a strike. We will not know anything until around the 25th/26th of Aorim which is when any need for mediation will be announced, and the first extension of the strike warnings will be announced as well.
Apr 14, 2019, 11:04 am
#19
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I have a single flight from HKG to CPH on the 29 of april (just after midnight so its more like sunday april 28). Its booked as an award with FlyPremium in business class before SAS Eurobonus raised the award prices last year. Im a EBG. If the strike will be pulled on the friday 26 april, I hope SAS will rebook me on another *A flight that night. Or will SAS use their *new policy* and force me to wait in HKG until the next SAS flight? I need to go home so now Im thinking of reeboking on my own already now to an award with LX/OS/LH/TK or pay for economy. Thanks for advices!
Last edited by criced; Apr 14, 2019 at 11:45 am
Apr 15, 2019, 9:11 am
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I have a single flight from HKG to CPH on the 29 of april (just after midnight so its more like sunday april 28). Its booked as an award with FlyPremium in business class before SAS Eurobonus raised the award prices last year. Im a EBG. If the strike will be pulled on the friday 26 april, I hope SAS will rebook me on another *A flight that night. Or will SAS use their *new policy* and force me to wait in HKG until the next SAS flight? I need to go home so now Im thinking of reeboking on my own already now to an award with LX/OS/LH/TK or pay for economy. Thanks for advices!
Apr 15, 2019, 10:59 am
#21
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What new policy are you refering too? SK is normally known for making sure the delay is minimized as much as possible. Beside that. If the outbound flight towards HKG is taking off before the strike starts, the return flight will most likely happen despite the strike. The pilots will have to pay for their own accommodation if they are refusing to do a return flight due to a strike.
Have heard reports this year when SAS have had cancelations and other problems on longhaul, that people have got the only option to reebok on a SAS flight the day after. Customer care have told people that they are not allowed to rebook on other carriers (Star Alliance). True or not, I dont know.
Apr 15, 2019, 11:21 am
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They flight will depart 27 of april to HKG.
Have heard reports this year when SAS have had cancelations and other problems on longhaul, that people have got the only option to reebok on a SAS flight the day after. Customer care have told people that they are not allowed to rebook on other carriers (Star Alliance). True or not, I dont know.
Have heard reports this year when SAS have had cancelations and other problems on longhaul, that people have got the only option to reebok on a SAS flight the day after. Customer care have told people that they are not allowed to rebook on other carriers (Star Alliance). True or not, I dont know.
Apr 16, 2019, 4:00 am
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For sure, I don’t support people asking for more money just for doing the same job without any justification.
If the justification is: living gets more expensive, the official inflation level should be a good measure. (And should align also with SKs ticketing pricing and therefore revenue)
If the justification is: I think I’m underpaid for the duties I perform... well, look for an employer who values your work the same way you do. (I worked on this concept for the last 15 years and it works pretty well...)
Last edited by fassy; Apr 16, 2019 at 4:55 am
Apr 16, 2019, 6:44 am
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They flight will depart 27 of april to HKG.
Have heard reports this year when SAS have had cancelations and other problems on longhaul, that people have got the only option to reebok on a SAS flight the day after. Customer care have told people that they are not allowed to rebook on other carriers (Star Alliance). True or not, I dont know.
Have heard reports this year when SAS have had cancelations and other problems on longhaul, that people have got the only option to reebok on a SAS flight the day after. Customer care have told people that they are not allowed to rebook on other carriers (Star Alliance). True or not, I dont know.
Beside. With EBG status you will get priority when rebooking.
The Pilots claim the last agreement meant they are now behind pilots from e.g. LH, which is probably true as SK are not using the argument that they are still more expensive than LH pilots.
Apr 16, 2019, 7:10 am
#28
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BS! Exactly my argument. Just leave SK and go to LH if that is so great and you get paid better... btw, I know enough LH pilots and they are in turn eyeing at the Chinese carriers now. Some of them actually offer $250k/year with stationing in FRA or even more for stationing in China or South East Asia like SIN. At the same time, working conditions at LH are not really that attractive anymore.
Apr 16, 2019, 7:18 am
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BS! Exactly my argument. Just leave SK and go to LH if that is so great and you get paid better... btw, I know enough LH pilots and they are in turn eyeing at the Chinese carriers now. Some of them actually offer $250k/year with stationing in FRA or even more for stationing in China or South East Asia like SIN. At the same time, working conditions at LH are not really that attractive anymore.
Apr 16, 2019, 7:50 am
#30
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the times when number of years in the cockpit made you Captain are long gone. Some of my friends are in the game now longer than the average time it took to become captain in the past without a chance to be promoted. LH, like a lot of the carriers will run into a serious shortage of qualified flying personal sooner than later.
