SAS pilots on strike in April 2019
#331
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909 was non-canceled (even with a designated gate) 30 minutes before the annoncement from the CEO. But all other long haul Friday ex CPH remains canceled apart from HKG. A little strange they are not able to operate long haul ex Scandinavia in the afttenoon.
#333
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edit: I just checked my flight bound for NRT on the 4th. It's still listed as possible affected by the strike. Maybe they haven't gotten all the flights updated yet.
#334
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Just read the statement about EC261/2004 carefully "EU REGULATION 261/2004 : Our interpretation of the EU 261/2004 regulation is that a passenger is not entitled to compensation if the delay or cancelation was caused by an industrial action since it’s an extraordinary circumstance, outside of the actual control of the airline that can’t be avoided with reasonable measures."
I wonder if SAS would change their mind.
I wonder if SAS would change their mind.
#335
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Just read the statement about EC261/2004 carefully "EU REGULATION 261/2004 : Our interpretation of the EU 261/2004 regulation is that a passenger is not entitled to compensation if the delay or cancelation was caused by an industrial action since its an extraordinary circumstance, outside of the actual control of the airline that cant be avoided with reasonable measures."
I wonder if SAS would change their mind.
I wonder if SAS would change their mind.
#336
Join Date: May 2017
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Just read the statement about EC261/2004 carefully "EU REGULATION 261/2004 : Our interpretation of the EU 261/2004 regulation is that a passenger is not entitled to compensation if the delay or cancelation was caused by an industrial action since it’s an extraordinary circumstance, outside of the actual control of the airline that can’t be avoided with reasonable measures."
I wonder if SAS would change their mind.
I wonder if SAS would change their mind.
SAS still has to cover your meal and hotel costs, even if the strike is an extraordinary circumstance.
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#337
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Now on SVT.se "https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/k...sas-konflikten"
there is one sentence "Om man som kund har rtt till kompensation fr sina instllda resor s kommer man att f det, sger vd:n."
I will wait and see how this will develop since I am affected for both inbound and outbound flights.
And SAS customer service refused to pay compensation a few days ago.
#338
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They need to fly out crew's otherwise there are no one to fly the birds back after the first outbound leg. A crew can't travel as pax's on the outbound leg and then fly back as crew a few hours later. At least not as far as I know, and personally I wouldn't like to be on the return flight with a crew which has just spend +6 hours as pax's.
#339
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No need to. The leech's who lives of getting you compensation from the airlines will run trial cases. Just be sure you submit you claim in time, and keep the documentation of the claim and decline in case the court rules against SAS.
#340
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Only the European Court of Justice can determine if strikes are extraordinary circumstances or not. Wildcat strikes are not extraordinary circumstances. It is untested if normal strikes are extraordinary circumstances. I think that some national courts have ruled on normal strikes with varying results. You are free to take SAS to court and see what the court says. Just keep in mind that you probably have to pay for both parties' legal fees, should the court side with SAS.
SAS still has to cover your meal and hotel costs, even if the strike is an extraordinary circumstance.
SAS still has to cover your meal and hotel costs, even if the strike is an extraordinary circumstance.
SAS has a lot of challenges from this strike.
#341
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As I followed the live press conference, there was a question about compensation but could not catch all the details.
Now on SVT.se "https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/k...sas-konflikten"
there is one sentence "Om man som kund har rtt till kompensation fr sina instllda resor s kommer man att f det, sger vd:n."
Now on SVT.se "https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/k...sas-konflikten"
there is one sentence "Om man som kund har rtt till kompensation fr sina instllda resor s kommer man att f det, sger vd:n."
#342
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Within this week, I see promo ads from 'air passenger assistance' all day every day.
#343
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You don't need to use them. The ruling will have precedent and SAS will follow it. But it might take some time as it will most likely be appealed no matter who wins in the lower court.
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As I've noted earlier, the EC has provided indications that some strikes should not be considered "extraordinary circumstances", and that EC sentiment is likely to also be codified if/when EC 261/2004 is updated/replaced. By way of that, this kind of SAS strike would not be classified as an "extraordinary circumstance".
Last edited by GUWonder; May 2, 2019 at 4:48 pm
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