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3 A321LR for SAS from H1 2020
This could be interesting. From press release: SAS EXPANDS ITS FLEET – LEASES THREE A321 LONG RANGE SAS has signed a leasing agreement with ALC (Air Lease Corporation) which means SAS will expand its aircraft fleet with three Airbus A321LR. This gives SAS an opportunity to offer travelers more intercontinental routes, fewer stopovers and shorter travel times to and from Scandinavia. The first aircraft will enter into service in the first half of 2020. The aircraft has sufficient range to reach Northeast US, one of the most important intercontinental markets for SAS. The A321LR can also reach destinations in Canada, the Middle East and India from Scandinavia. “We are looking forward to launching new routes and to evaluate the A321LR in production,” says Rickard Gustafson, President and CEO, SAS. SAS current flies wide-body aircraft that seat up to 266 passengers on its intercontinental routes. The A321LR is a smaller aircraft, which gives SAS the opportunity to fill the aircraft on new routes. For example, these can be new destinations on smaller markets or existing destinations from smaller airports. SAS is now in the process of deciding on the first routes and cabin configuration of the aircraft. The new routes will gradually be communicated from spring 2019. The first A321LR will enter into service in the first half of 2020. |
Great... did a couple of rotations CPH-BOS and IAH-SVG in the 737. Always liked it, even though the J seat was horrible outdated. Assuming the J seat in the A321LR is decent I'd welcome a narrow body service to the east coast.
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Not a surprise, but will be very interesting to see the configuration of the planes! I wonder if they'll even have the Business class Lie-flat seats or just 2 class with the same PLUS seats as on the A330/340.
I bet they'll eventually end up with more than 3 A321LR's. For routes: AAR-EWR probably one? CPH-BOS daily during the winter perhaps or a mix? BGO-EWR? A lot of opertunities for routes, maybe off to ADD? |
CPH-BOS is of course a good guess. Perhaps GOT-EWR could work with that aircraft?
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Originally Posted by SK989
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CPH-BOS is of course a good guess. Perhaps GOT-EWR could work with that aircraft?
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I just hope that the hard product ends up being at least as good as the newly refurbished A330/340 fleet, as well as the coming A350s. Not sure how they will make that work in business, but I am interested to see how it goes.
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Originally Posted by Daner
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I just hope that the hard product ends up being at least as good as the newly refurbished A330/340 fleet, as well as the coming A350s. Not sure how they will make that work in business, but I am interested to see how it goes.
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The current seat is Vantage XL. That is unlikely to fit. But Thompson seems to have developed the Vantage Solo specifically for this. https://www.thompsonaero.com/seating-range/vantagesolo/ |
Originally Posted by ScandiGB
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The current seat is Vantage XL. That is unlikely to fit. But Thompson seems to have developed the Vantage Solo specifically for this. https://www.thompsonaero.com/seating-range/vantagesolo/ It could also seem very narrow, like the so called "coffin seats" on Cathay. |
Perhaps SAS could open a route ex HEL :) put on some competition to AY 👍👍 I know its a slim chance but would be a welcome change. :)
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Originally Posted by kauppias
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Perhaps SAS could open a route ex HEL :) put on some competition to AY 👍👍 I know its a slim chance but would be a welcome change. :)
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
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They could probably do a GOT-EWR-HEL-EWR-GOT style rotation, the crew could rotate back to home base via intra Nordic A320 series flight on HEL. Could probably work. And it is not like they would need to add infrastructure in Helsinki to operate an extra A321 flight, or not much infra. Would also have my doubts on it happening, but it could.
Indeed. I am not going to be sticking with SK come next year so no bets on the game so to say but it sure could be smart move to do more route from current smaller airport IMHO. I just hope they do more routes and more airports not just more frequencies... |
Big question is also if the aircraft will be owned by SAS or SAS Ireland. I know a lot of pilots who assume they'll go to SAIL. I also read on "Børsen" behind a paywall, that they'll include both SAS Business, PLUS and GO.
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
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They could probably do a GOT-EWR-HEL-EWR-GOT style rotation, the crew could rotate back to home base via intra Nordic A320 series flight on HEL. Could probably work. And it is not like they would need to add infrastructure in Helsinki to operate an extra A321 flight, or not much infra. Would also have my doubts on it happening, but it could.
I'd rather optimize the general reach of the network, and the average travel time over my year, rather than the single odd time when I need EWR from my secondary airport of origin. So I would rather do like KLM and LH do: give me more feeders, also early morning and late night into a hub, and get me from that hub to more US cities directly. I think this is a model that is proven to work. Of course if you fly EWR weekly, and you don't need to suffer a feeder on UA/AA after that, your perspective differs. |
Originally Posted by SK2751
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I'd be schocked if that happens. Why fly a route with no feeder traffic? I doubt one would fill the machines with only local pax, and feeding people to GOT or HEL just seems to be working against the current. I think secondary stations would benefit more from more frequent feeding into CPH than froma direct odd long haul route that most people just use a couple of years or so. Now I regularly choose to connect in MUC or FRA, because even if SK has flights to my destination, they are impossible to make with existing feeders, or they equire too much waste time waiting for the connection.
I'd rather optimize the general reach of the network, and the average travel time over my year, rather than the single odd time when I need EWR from my secondary airport of origin. So I would rather do like KLM and LH do: give me more feeders, also early morning and late night into a hub, and get me from that hub to more US cities directly. I think this is a model that is proven to work. Of course if you fly EWR weekly, and you don't need to suffer a feeder on UA/AA after that, your perspective differs. |
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