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Old Dec 5, 2018, 2:45 pm
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*A family guests in lounge

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I am EBG and I am aware that I can bring family into SAS lounges but only one guest into *A lounges.

My question is if this is enforced strictly or if there is any chance that I can bring wife and kids into a LH lounge at FRA or *A lounge at SIN (TG seems like the only option)?
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Old Dec 5, 2018, 3:31 pm
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There is no general answer. But, you should presume strict enforcement, most especially by LH. *A carriers invoice the "home" carrier, SK in your case, for the use of their lounge. If LH staff admit you and too many guests to its lounge and try to invoice SK and SK does not pay the extra fee, the lounge staff at FRA will hear about it from their employer.

There is no harm in asking, but you should be pleased if allowed and accepting if not.
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Old Dec 5, 2018, 3:43 pm
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There is no harm in asking, but you should be pleased if allowed and accepting if not.
Thanks. That’s very helpful.

I certainly wouldn’t expect to get in so it was more if it was worth the try (especially if it involves a long walk to the lounge at SIN).
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Old Dec 5, 2018, 3:55 pm
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Depends how old the kids are... with babies and toddlers the changes are not too bad, with teenagers rather slim.
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Old Dec 5, 2018, 4:20 pm
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Depends how old the kids are... with babies and toddlers the changes are not too bad, with teenagers rather slim.
They are 2, 7 and 9 so we’ll probably give it a try.
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Old Dec 5, 2018, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by SASegments
Thanks. That’s very helpful.

I certainly wouldn’t expect to get in so it was more if it was worth the try (especially if it involves a long walk to the lounge at SIN).
The Kris Flyer Gold Lounge at SIN is centrally located in T3, so probably no detour.

Exactly here I tried to get my son (besides my wife which had no status at that time) into the lounge. The answer was 'ok we make an exemption this time.' He was around 16 years.

But it is five years ago.
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Old Dec 5, 2018, 4:35 pm
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BTW

With kids at your age I could imagine, that the Asian gate dragon would get soft (if she/he thinks they will behave well), much less a German one. But pure speculation.
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 3:22 am
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LH is known to be strict, TK is a no go and SK sometimes lets you in. More here: Lounge access for "immediate family" in * lounges
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 5:37 am
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Originally Posted by SASegments
Hi

I am EBG and I am aware that I can bring family into SAS lounges but only one guest into *A lounges.

My question is if this is enforced strictly or if there is any chance that I can bring wife and kids into a LH lounge at FRA or *A lounge at SIN (TG seems like the only option)?
LH at FRA is unlikely to allow in five economy class passengers on the basis of only one *G passenger in the group in this kind of situation. The *G lounges at SIN are just as rigid sticklers in this regard in my experience even when talking about just 3 or 4 family members in a group. Of course there is a chance you may run into one or two *G members with no guests in tow and willing to use their guest allowance benefit to help, but that's a gamble in terms of when or if you find enough *Gs/first class passengers willing to help.

This kind of situation is one of the reasons I get US bank cards with included lounge benefits of sort and then make sure to get some additional users on the account so as to try to reduce/eliminate the differential between what the lounge rules allow and the waiver that may be sought/chanced for lounge use on trips.
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 6:36 am
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TK is absolutely no go - saw a DYKWIA woman with SK G trying to guest her hubby and a 2 years old in and was denied. She was so arrogant and teaching the dragons that she could bring in her family at SAS lounge and therefore the same applies to TK. They told her that she has to pick one to guest in, she was very upset and left.

I brought my kids into CX lounge and before we approached the counter the dragon looked at us very strangely. I got all our OWS cards ready and showed her when she was about to start her speech. She was shocked and commented on the children having OWS, she thought I was one of those who try to get my no status kids into the lounge.

Similar thing happened at LH IAD lounge - the dragon thought a party of 4 with only 1 *G.

If you really want lounge access why don't you just buy it? Or get a credit card that gives you access. You can try lounge buddy - I saw that they sell LH lounge access too. In SIN you can eat good food in the food court in the basement of SIN - it's delicious and cheap.
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by nacho
TK is absolutely no go - saw a DYKWIA woman with SK G trying to guest her hubby and a 2 years old in and was denied. She was so arrogant and teaching the dragons that she could bring in her family at SAS lounge and therefore the same applies to TK. They told her that she has to pick one to guest in, she was very upset and left.

I brought my kids into CX lounge and before we approached the counter the dragon looked at us very strangely. I got all our OWS cards ready and showed her when she was about to start her speech. She was shocked and commented on the children having OWS, she thought I was one of those who try to get my no status kids into the lounge.

Similar thing happened at LH IAD lounge - the dragon thought a party of 4 with only 1 *G.

If you really want lounge access why don't you just buy it? Or get a credit card that gives you access. You can try lounge buddy - I saw that they sell LH lounge access too. In SIN you can eat good food in the food court in the basement of SIN - it's delicious and cheap.
We have Priority Pass but generally I prefer the *A lounges and there is no PP lounge airside at FRA.

I don’t need it to the extent of paying for 5 but if there were/is a chance they’ll let us in why not try. If it’s a no I certainly won’t be rude in any way but just go elsewhere.
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 8:03 am
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Just yesterday I saw a couple with a toddler denied access to a SEN lounge at FRA by LH staff, Ask but expect no, LH staff tend to adhere to the rules very exactly. SQ has the same culture IME.
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 2:52 pm
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Originally Posted by SASegments


We have Priority Pass but generally I prefer the *A lounges and there is no PP lounge airside at FRA.

I don’t need it to the extent of paying for 5 but if there were/is a chance they’ll let us in why not try. If it’s a no I certainly won’t be rude in any way but just go elsewhere.
FRA Terminal 2 has some airside Priority Pass lounges, but probably not worth it when the itinerary at FRA involves being only at Terminal 1.
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Old Dec 7, 2018, 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by nacho
TK is absolutely no go - saw a DYKWIA woman with SK G trying to guest her hubby and a 2 years old in and was denied. She was so arrogant and teaching the dragons that she could bring in her family at SAS lounge and therefore the same applies to TK. They told her that she has to pick one to guest in, she was very upset and left.
Originally Posted by Dover2Golf
Just yesterday I saw a couple with a toddler denied access to a SEN lounge at FRA by LH staff, Ask but expect no, LH staff tend to adhere to the rules very exactly. SQ has the same culture IME.
If the toddler was under 2 in either of the above instances, the couple(s) should have been able to bring both the non-*G spouse and the kid in the lounge.

It would be nice if there was a way to pay for extra guests without breaking the bank. IIRC, AC's MLLs allow *Gs (or anyone with lounge access) who exceed their guest limits to pay for additional guests (I think ~20-30 CAD/USD/EUR). It's not a good value, but at least the option's available. Since there's an AC MLL at FRA, perhaps @SASegments can use that lounge instead? Best case, they might allow you to bring the 2-year-old in for free, and maybe even cut you a break for the older kids by charging for 1.
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Old Dec 8, 2018, 1:31 am
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My experience is LH is very strict, doesn’t stop me asking

Only once I’ve been allowed child <5 to follow in when all flying Y and only me as *G.

On one occasion 2 adults + 2 kids <5 flying C but denied into Senator lounge as only one *G, referred to Business Lounge, which is correct policy.
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