SAS Go: Devalution in EuroBonus earnings
SAS have just reported this morning that the SAS Go earnings of EuroBonus points will be reduced a lot from December 1st 2018.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5685d4840a.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4bd9526d58.jpg Was this expected? |
OK. This starts to look so serious to me that it might be worth recalculating whether I wouldn't like to change the airline or my FFP. The first time in a loong time.
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Sama here. Ridiculous no bags policy for Gold, Diamonds etc and very high baggage fees compared to for example Finnair are also beginning to annoy quite a lot.
Also, it's quite hard for normal customers to see what booking class you are buying into. Do we have to start to use travel agencies again?? |
What's it the strategic reasons for this - other than just cost savings? Each tier threshold must be cut in half. Even more of us must be leaving. This will probably mean, that I will go floating between programs, as I cannot uphold top tier anymore. Might as well just go googling for each flight and then go for cheapest bizz TATL. I am so puzzled and a little frustrated - like being dumped by a girl, almost. SAS is really not loving me.
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They really do everything they can to compete on price alone here. To me they are just shooting themselves in the foot, cause if they can't offer the lowest price they won't succeed with the strategy.
Also, from a consumer point of view this is ridiculous. A K-fare (Go light) CPH-CHI costs €592 return + €220 YQ + €77 taxes. That is €812 (out of €889) that goes straight to SK pocket and they will in return give you 400 EB-points to spend as you please! In this (I admit pretty theoretical) example you'd earn gold only after having done 22.5 return trips to Chicago, i.e. SAS would give you a gold card only when you've spent €18000 on tickets + YQ, excluding taxes. You would also have earned 9k EB points only. Fare calculation CPH-CHI r/t: 02 KHWDKGHT * * 1 * 888.44 * *Y LAST TKT DTE 08OCT18/23:59 LT in POS - SEE ADV PURCHASE ------------------------------------------------------------ AL FLGT BK T DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG CPH CHI SK 943 K K 19JUL 1540 KHWDKGHT 19JUL19JUL 0P CPH SK 944 K K 21JUL 2205 KHWDKGHT 21JUL21JUL 0P DKK 4415 19JUL19CPH SK CHI343.26SK CPH343.26NUC EUR 592.00 686.52END ROE6.430875 EUR 219.92-YQ XT EUR 4.94-YC EUR 15.65-US EUR 15.65-US EUR 22.26-ZO EUR 3.39-XA EUR 5.99-XY EUR 4.79-AY EUR EUR 54.26-XT 3.85-XF ORD4.50 EUR 888.44 RATE USED 1DKK=0.134098EUR |
Originally Posted by Gnopps
(Post 30265523)
They really do everything they can to compete on price alone here. To me they are just shooting themselves in the foot, cause if they can't offer the lowest price they won't succeed with the strategy.
Also, from a consumer point of view this is ridiculous. A K-fare CPH-TYO costs €688 return + €220 YQ + €42 taxes. That is €908 (out of €950) that goes straight to SK pocket and they will in return give you 480 EB-points to spend as you please! In this (I admit pretty theoretical) example you'd earn gold only after having done 22.5 return trips to Tokyo, i.e. SAS would give you a gold card only when you've spent €20500 on tickets + YQ, excluding taxes. You would also have earned 10k EB points only. Fare calculation CPH-TYO r/t: |
Originally Posted by Jainzar
(Post 30265539)
It is 4800 points and not 480. K earns in future 2400 in Go. And there are no Light tickets to Asia.
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Originally Posted by don_hansen
(Post 30265517)
What's it the strategic reasons for this - other than just cost savings? Each tier threshold must be cut in half. Even more of us must be leaving. This will probably mean, that I will go floating between programs, as I cannot uphold top tier anymore. Might as well just go googling for each flight and then go for cheapest bizz TATL. I am so puzzled and a little frustrated - like being dumped by a girl, almost. SAS is really not loving me.
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Originally Posted by Gnopps
(Post 30265523)
In this (I admit pretty theoretical) example you'd earn gold only after having done 22.5 return trips to Chicago, i.e. SAS would give you a gold card only when you've spent €18000 on tickets + YQ, excluding taxes. You would also have earned 9k EB points only.
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
(Post 30265637)
The rule of thumb for FFPs in Europe is about 12-15k € annual revenue for a Gold customer, so SAS is toeing the line of their consultants here.
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I'm also curious about whether it will hit A3 earnings on SK too, I'm TK G so I don't really fly SK for points as they give out pretty much nothing anyway. A3 is very generous about miles earn from SK.
The devaluation is expected - it's too generous for low priced Y tickets IMO. |
Originally Posted by nacho
(Post 30265795)
The devaluation is expected - it's too generous for low priced Y tickets IMO.
It is expected in the sense, that the economy seems to be going good, and they probably experience increased traffic, so they hope to keep the cost level, while increasing profit. A fair perspective. I only wonder whether they are not overplaying it. I think the loyalty to SK in the Scandinavian market is already shaken among professionals. I would say among tourists is long gone. Now they might start loosing a lot of professionals using the airlines frequently. I really hope they calculated this well. My personal decisions are probably not that important here - I will, as usual, find some local optimum for a few years, be it SK or not. But whatever I choose, I would like SK to thrive. |
Originally Posted by Jainzar
(Post 30265539)
It is 4800 points and not 480. K earns in future 2400 in Go. And there are no Light tickets to Asia.
Don't like to see the development of it. @SK2751 - Economy doing well IS the problem, that's why a lot of loyalty programmes are doing a lot of "enhancements". They think people can afford more and will fly anyway regardless of miles. Booked SK flights long time ago for a trip next year and I guess I'll have to look at which FFP I should be crediting the flights to. |
This is horrible news.
Originally Posted by SK2751
(Post 30265616)
for me MM and EB are natural choices, but none of them is particularly attractive
I think you summarized my feelings perfectly:
Originally Posted by don_hansen
(Post 30265517)
I am so puzzled and a little frustrated - like being dumped by a girl, almost. SAS is really not loving me.
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For EU, it is basically only Lite that changes (and booking class O) taking a hit.
For long haul more of a detailed change, but is the table also an admission of Lite coming to Asia flights as well? For EU flights I don't find the changes completely unreasonable. For long haul it seems a step too far. I get worried that partner earnings will also get a hit soon. |
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