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Old Jan 10, 2017, 10:07 pm
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LO operates CPH-ORB and CPH-GRQ
I was just surprised to discover that LO operates CPH-ORB and CPH-GRQ now, with one of the planes that overnights in CPH. Apparently they now they park 2 Embraers overnight at Kastrup. The flight numbers are strange (for instance LO8841) and are code share with SK. Are these legacy SK connections, and they are wet leased, or something like that? Or is LO trying to expand in CPH?
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Old Jan 11, 2017, 12:19 am
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LO took over the JP ops for Nordica.
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Old Jan 11, 2017, 1:21 am
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Even more complex, its ER4s wetleased from bmi regional:

Code:
TNCPHORB                                                                        
** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** ORB OREBRO.SE                     11JAN17 18JAN17  
 1  :SK8662  X67  CPH 3 ORB    1050    1150   0 09JAN17 24MAR17 ER4  1:00       
 2BM*LO8822  X67  CPH 3 ORB    1050    1150   0 09JAN17 24MAR17 ER4  1:00       
 3  :SK8664  X6   CPH 3 ORB    2105    2205   0 08JAN17 24MAR17 ER4  1:00       
 4BM*LO8826  X6   CPH 3 ORB    2105    2205   0 08JAN17 24MAR17 ER4  1:00       
 5  *9B1285  1234 CPH 2 MMX    1545    1630   0 CONNECT MMX     LMO             
    *W27966  1234 MMX   ORB    1830    1940   0 09JAN17 23MAR17 J32  3:55       
 6  *9B1283  5    CPH 2 MMX    1145    1230   0 CONNECT MMX     LMO             
    *W27966  5    MMX   ORB    1630    1740   0 13JAN17 24MAR17 J32  5:55       
 7   SK1420  5    CPH 3 ARN 5  1145    1255   0 CONNECT ARN     32A             
     SK2111  5    ARN 4 MMX    1435    1545   0 CONNECT MMX     73W             
    *W27966  5    MMX   ORB    1630    1740   0 13JAN17 13JAN17 J32  5:55       
>dosk8662
DOSK8662                                                                        
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO*              SK8662    0 WE 11JAN17                    
APT ARR   DY DEP   DY CLASS/MEAL          EQP  GRND  EFT   TTL                  
CPH          1050  WE C/M  D/RF J/M       ER4         1:00                      
                      YSB/RF P/M  A/RF                                          
                      EMHQWUKLT/RF                                              
ORB 1150  WE                                                1:00                
                                                                                
COMMENTS-                                                                       
 1.CPH ORB   - COMMERCIAL DUPLICATE - OPERATED BY                               
               BMI REGIONAL FOR LOT POLISH AIRLINES                             
 2.CPH ORB   - AIRCRAFT OWNER BMI REGIONAL                                      
 3.CPH ORB   - OPERATIONAL LEG LO 8822                                          
 4.CPH ORB   - DEPARTS TERMINAL 3                                               
 5.CPH ORB   -   9/ NON-SMOKING                                                 
 6.CPH ORB   -  ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE                                    
 7.CPH ORB   -  CO2/PAX* 97.39 KG ECO, 97.39 KG PRE                             
 (*):SOURCE:ICAO CARBON EMISSIONS CALCULATOR                                    
                                                                                
CONFIGURATION-                                                                  
               ER4  C 999   M 999                                               
>dolo8822
DOLO8822                                                                        
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO*              LO8822    0 WE 11JAN17                    
APT ARR   DY DEP   DY CLASS/MEAL          EQP  GRND  EFT   TTL                  
CPH          1050  WE CDZPARJYBME/-       ER4         1:00                      
                      HKQGTSVWLUO/-                                             
ORB 1150  WE                                                1:00                
                                                                                
COMMENTS-                                                                       
 1.CPH ORB   - AIRCRAFT OWNER BMI REGIONAL                                      
 2.CPH ORB   - OPERATED BY BMI REGIONAL                                         
 3.CPH ORB   - DEPARTS TERMINAL 3                                               
 4.CPH ORB   -   9/ NON-SMOKING                                                 
 5.CPH ORB   -  ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE                                    
 6.CPH ORB   - C49                                                              
 7.CPH ORB   -  CO2/PAX* 97.39 KG ECO, 97.39 KG PRE                             
 (*):SOURCE:ICAO CARBON EMISSIONS CALCULATOR                                    
                                                                                
CONFIGURATION-                                                                  
               ER4  C   3   P   3   Y  42                                       
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Old Jan 11, 2017, 2:12 am
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The route map of Nordica is here:
https://www.nordica.ee/assets/Kampaa...ega-2-veeb.jpg
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Old Jan 11, 2017, 3:09 pm
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Quite a complex and exotic setup. I am just glad that it seems to add one more CPH-WAW rotation.
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Old Jan 12, 2017, 1:10 am
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This will not add new rotation CPH-WAW. Leased plane is fully utilized in ORB-CPH-GRQ rotation. Below copy-paste from yesterday records on Flightradar:

2017-01-11
LO8826 Copenhagen (CPH) Orebro (ORB) 21:05 CET 21:28 22:05 CET Landed 22:19
2017-01-11
LO8846 Groningen (GRQ) Copenhagen (CPH) 19:10 CET 19:55 20:15 CET Landed 20:49
2017-01-11
LO8845 Copenhagen (CPH) Groningen (GRQ) 17:40 CET 18:24 18:45 CET Landed 19:17
2017-01-11
LO8825 Orebro (ORB) Copenhagen (CPH) 16:05 CET 16:15 17:05 CET Landed 17:00
2017-01-11
LO8822 Copenhagen (CPH) Orebro (ORB) 10:50 CET 10:52 11:50 CET Landed 11:40
2017-01-11
LO8842 Groningen (GRQ) Copenhagen (CPH) 09:15 CET 09:07 10:20 CET Landed 09:57
2017-01-11
LO8841 Copenhagen (CPH) Groningen (GRQ) 07:45 CET 07:51 08:50 CET Landed 08:41
2017-01-11
LO8821 Orebro (ORB) Copenhagen (CPH) 06:05 CET 05:50 07:05 CET Landed 06:32
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Old Jan 13, 2017, 6:37 am
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LO has now two evening flights from WAW to CPH and two morning flights from CPH to WAW. I thought that one of these was done with the same machine as the ORB/GRQ rotations. But I did not check that. And I did not realize they do more than one rotation to ORB/GRQ a day. I am even surprised that there is enough commercial interest. I just hope that they are not doing this effort in vain.
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Old Jan 13, 2017, 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by wazow
LO has now two evening flights from WAW to CPH and two morning flights from CPH to WAW.
Plus SK flights and we're looking at a significant number of services on that route, which obviously suggest high demand. I was on 751 this morning (by accident, having missed the late evening flight to GDN last night coming from delayed 2536) and the plane was half empty, but I'm assuming that's to be expected on a Friday morning (and especially when there are 3 flights between 7 and 11!).

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Old Jan 13, 2017, 8:19 am
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Previously discussed in the LH forum: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufth...why-route.html

CPH-ORB used to be operated by Estonian. When they folded, Nordica was founded, and they used Adria aircraft and AOC to operate the route. The CPH-GRQ route was added later on, making the route ORB-CPH-GRQ.
A couple of months ago, LOT took over the ops, and they use BMI aircraft for this route.
So it's a Nordica route operated by LOT using BMI aircraft. Not complicated at all.
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Old Jan 14, 2017, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by UA1K_no_more
So it's a Nordica route operated by LOT using BMI aircraft. Not complicated at all.
It caught my attention because in CPH it is displayed as an LO flight, with an SK codeshare. Nordica was not mentioned, as far as I could see.
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Old Jan 17, 2017, 3:06 am
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Originally Posted by wazow
And I did not realize they do more than one rotation to ORB/GRQ a day. I am even surprised that there is enough commercial interest. I just hope that they are not doing this effort in vain.
Both are routes under service agreements where the commercial risk and marketing task lies on the relevant municipality.

I doubt there has been any affort to promote it as "Nordica" flight, because there is likely no brand awareness yet. But selling it as a typical *A flight catches more attention and gives options to pax.
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