ID Pax on SAS Business
Feb 4, 2015, 8:24 am
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Your friend should not be telling you these things or at least make it clear that is should not be publicized.
Nevertheless, the ID90 ticket price should be 90% off the full fare (typically Y or C). Not sure what they use for economy since Y is full fare Plus these days. I suppose that E class is full fare economy currently.
Without YQ the ticket price in C booking class is about SEK 25000 each way.
I don't know about YQ charges. I am guessing not since they amount to about SEK 2700 on CPH-EWR.
I can of course be wrong about this.
I can also add that intra-Europe Go tickets are often cheaper than ID tickets these days.
Nevertheless, the ID90 ticket price should be 90% off the full fare (typically Y or C). Not sure what they use for economy since Y is full fare Plus these days. I suppose that E class is full fare economy currently.
Without YQ the ticket price in C booking class is about SEK 25000 each way.
I don't know about YQ charges. I am guessing not since they amount to about SEK 2700 on CPH-EWR.
I can of course be wrong about this.
I can also add that intra-Europe Go tickets are often cheaper than ID tickets these days.
My friend works for Wideroe, so as an employee he gets access to the ID90 tickets. Nothing strange about that. The price for a return ticket in Business Class to New York on SAS is around 2500 SEK, and to Brazil with Lufthansa he paid around 5000 SEK for a Business Class return. There are different rates for friends and family, who usually pay around double the price that the employee pays.
I fly Business Class on a regular basis both on paid and award tickets, just like anybody else here, and yes I also take advantage of the discount SAS GO fares from time to time. I see nothing wrong with that.
I fly Business Class on a regular basis both on paid and award tickets, just like anybody else here, and yes I also take advantage of the discount SAS GO fares from time to time. I see nothing wrong with that.
Feb 5, 2015, 1:05 am
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While the fuel surcharge has not come down along with the oil price, jet fuel is still one of the most significant costs for airlines, so while you can discuss the actual movements and size of the fuel surcharge, calling its mere existence fraudulent is a bit strong. Some carriers have changed the line to carrier surcharge or similar. SK still refers to it as fuel surcharge though. In the end it is just another revenue stream.
Feb 5, 2015, 2:00 am
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holy crap, why none of my family works for SAS 
Feb 5, 2015, 8:17 am
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In the late 1990s you could buy a transatlantic ticket in the winter season for maybe $400 round trip. They still have such fares but now there is $400+ YQ and then other taxes bringing the cheapest tickets up toward $1000.
It would be better if they just increased the price and scrapped the fuel surcharge/ YQ. Part of the puzzle for European airlines is that they add the fuel surcharge to award tickets, so that is probably a reason to keep it. SK calls it fuel and security charge or something like that. Of course the security part is nonsense; that's covered by other line item taxes/fees.
It would be better if they just increased the price and scrapped the fuel surcharge/ YQ. Part of the puzzle for European airlines is that they add the fuel surcharge to award tickets, so that is probably a reason to keep it. SK calls it fuel and security charge or something like that. Of course the security part is nonsense; that's covered by other line item taxes/fees.
Because in the current market conditions fuel is free or the airlines are even paid to fuel their planes?
While the fuel surcharge has not come down along with the oil price, jet fuel is still one of the most significant costs for airlines, so while you can discuss the actual movements and size of the fuel surcharge, calling its mere existence fraudulent is a bit strong. Some carriers have changed the line to carrier surcharge or similar. SK still refers to it as fuel surcharge though. In the end it is just another revenue stream.
While the fuel surcharge has not come down along with the oil price, jet fuel is still one of the most significant costs for airlines, so while you can discuss the actual movements and size of the fuel surcharge, calling its mere existence fraudulent is a bit strong. Some carriers have changed the line to carrier surcharge or similar. SK still refers to it as fuel surcharge though. In the end it is just another revenue stream.
Feb 5, 2015, 9:36 am
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Feb 5, 2015, 11:45 am
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In the late 1990s you could buy a transatlantic ticket in the winter season for maybe $400 round trip. They still have such fares but now there is $400+ YQ and then other taxes bringing the cheapest tickets up toward $1000.
It would be better if they just increased the price and scrapped the fuel surcharge/ YQ. Part of the puzzle for European airlines is that they add the fuel surcharge to award tickets, so that is probably a reason to keep it. SK calls it fuel and security charge or something like that. Of course the security part is nonsense; that's covered by other line item taxes/fees.
It would be better if they just increased the price and scrapped the fuel surcharge/ YQ. Part of the puzzle for European airlines is that they add the fuel surcharge to award tickets, so that is probably a reason to keep it. SK calls it fuel and security charge or something like that. Of course the security part is nonsense; that's covered by other line item taxes/fees.
Feb 5, 2015, 8:18 pm
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SK can order its affairs as it likes. If they want to give ID flyers open seats in C over EBD/full fare Y/people upgrading for extra $$$ at the gate, that's fine with me, I suppose. If I ran the airline, I would probably do it differently, but then again, I've never run an airline.
I still contend that the ID prices cited here are much lower than reality. And in the first example the passenger was allegedly upgraded from economy. I can easily find out the current price but this is not public information and I would not disclose it.
Also this ID passenger was an idiot and violated the rules for disclosing that he was ID and then showing a receipt -- if he actually did this. In the old days this could have been cause for suspending his ID privileges.
Regarding the meals, if this rumor is correct, then point upgraders should hope for C class ID passengers since if the are listed on a flight then they will provide extra catering.
Also this ID passenger was an idiot and violated the rules for disclosing that he was ID and then showing a receipt -- if he actually did this. In the old days this could have been cause for suspending his ID privileges.
Regarding the meals, if this rumor is correct, then point upgraders should hope for C class ID passengers since if the are listed on a flight then they will provide extra catering.
Feb 5, 2015, 9:26 pm
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ID-passengers does not have priority over revenue-passengers.
ID travel in business class is always on a space-available basis.
Sure. You belong to the "elite" who actually fly business. However not on your own dime... Maybe this is hard for you to believe, but some people actually fly business on their own dime. Yup, it actually happens.
Once again. Wise words
ID travel in business class is always on a space-available basis.
Sure. You belong to the "elite" who actually fly business. However not on your own dime... Maybe this is hard for you to believe, but some people actually fly business on their own dime. Yup, it actually happens.
Once again. Wise words
So ... what's your point? Bazooka-ing your own foot with your inconsequential defense of ancient staff perks?
I think you should get a hobby, a better job or something. Envy is a bad color on everyone, mate.
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Feb 6, 2015, 4:45 am
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Who cares if the revenue pax are paid by company or out of their pocket - someone is paying SK for those tickets.
It's absolutely unprofessional for the crew to treat ID pax better than regular pax.
I talked to someone who's spouse (Swede) used to work for SK based in China. They flew solely C on ID fare and from what I could tell, the fare was like free for them. It was a while ago so back then the ID rules might be looser.
It's absolutely unprofessional for the crew to treat ID pax better than regular pax.
I talked to someone who's spouse (Swede) used to work for SK based in China. They flew solely C on ID fare and from what I could tell, the fare was like free for them. It was a while ago so back then the ID rules might be looser.
May 23, 2015, 2:20 pm
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SAS off duty flight attendant in Business Class
was on my flight from SFO to ARN via CPH last week, 2 off duty flight attendant were flying Business Class (they told me they were off duty that's why I know they are flight attendant)
Nothing to moot about, but just wondering how much do their paid for their ticket ?
Nothing to moot about, but just wondering how much do their paid for their ticket ?
May 24, 2015, 4:48 am
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Considering the marginal amount of available reward seats and upgrade opportunities I would argue it is not acceptable nonetheless.
Where there empty seats?
Where there empty seats?
May 24, 2015, 3:33 pm
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Hardly news. I've mostly stopped flying SAS longhaul after had multiple repeats of being booted out of my seat and mini cabin to make it into "SAS crew and friends"-cabin.
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