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Old Jul 6, 2017, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by highupinthesky
You often see 340's flying to EWR or IAD, just as you often see 330's flying to ORD or SFO.
No, not SFO. The A330 dont have range enough. And the A330E, which maybe is able of CPH-SFO, is based at ARN. I have never seen an A330 on that route.
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Tango Alpha
No, not SFO. The A330 dont have range enough. And the A330E, which maybe is able of CPH-SFO, is based at ARN. I have never seen an A330 on that route.
It's on the edge, but the old A330 can actually fly between CPH and SFO. SK did use an old A330 on some rotations in the beginning of ARN-LAX, and that route is longer than CPH-SFO, but they might not be able to do it with a fully loaded bird.
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by highupinthesky
It's on the edge, but the old A330 can actually fly between CPH and SFO. SK did use an old A330 on some rotations in the beginning of ARN-LAX, and that route is longer than CPH-SFO, but they might not be able to do it with a fully loaded bird.
I just booked award ticket LAX - ARN that is listed as A330-300.
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 1:08 pm
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This plane should have range greater than 8000 miles. And this route should be under 6000 miles.
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by zoechow
This plane should have range greater than 8000 miles. And this route should be under 6000 miles.
My mistake -- sas lists range of their A330 as 10000 km; still over 6000.
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy
In action continuously from 14-18 June...

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/LNRKP/history/80
Used every day June 29 - July 6, never spending more than a couple of hours on the ground.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ln-rkp

Cue the "No, they're not using the aircraft a lot" posts from the usual suspect(s). @:-)
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by DoTheBartMan
Used every day June 29 - July 6, never spending more than a couple of hours on the ground.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ln-rkp

Cue the "No, they're not using the aircraft a lot" posts from the usual suspect(s). @:-)
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by DoTheBartMan
Used every day June 29 - July 6, never spending more than a couple of hours on the ground.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ln-rkp

Cue the "No, they're not using the aircraft a lot" posts from the usual suspect(s). @:-)
And your problem is?
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Old Jul 6, 2017, 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by highupinthesky
And your problem is?

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Old Jul 6, 2017, 11:40 pm
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Originally Posted by DoTheBartMan
Cue the "No, they're not using the aircraft a lot" posts from the usual suspect(s). @:-)
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 1:26 am
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Originally Posted by highupinthesky
It's on the edge, but the old A330 can actually fly between CPH and SFO. SK did use an old A330 on some rotations in the beginning of ARN-LAX, and that route is longer than CPH-SFO, but they might not be able to do it with a fully loaded bird.
I rest my case on the capability of the classic A330. The range is in theory 9.700 km, and the distance CPH-SFO is 8.818 km. Headwind could limit the load, though.

CPH-SFO and ARN-LAX is same distance – the latter just 56 km longer.

In any case: In practice we will not meet an A330 on CPH-SFO.
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 4:22 am
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Originally Posted by Tango Alpha
I rest my case on the capability of the classic A330. The range is in theory 9.700 km, and the distance CPH-SFO is 8.818 km. Headwind could limit the load, though.

CPH-SFO and ARN-LAX is same distance – the latter just 56 km longer.

In any case: In practice we will not meet an A330 on CPH-SFO.
Well. I've been on an A330 on my last trip from SFO about a year ago, but I agree it's primarily an A340 route and A330's will be the exception, where as IAD, EWR and ORD is 50-50 at times.
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 2:23 pm
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Originally Posted by highupinthesky
Well. I've been on an A330 on my last trip from SFO about a year ago, but I agree it's primarily an A340 route and A330's will be the exception, where as IAD, EWR and ORD is 50-50 at times.
On routes where it is 50-50 does it tend to stick to a prior planned assigned aircraft, or change before flight playing havoc with seat reservations?
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Tango Alpha
CPH-SFO and ARN-LAX is same distance – the latter just 56 km longer.

In any case: In practice we will not meet an A330 on CPH-SFO.
Clicking in flight aware suggests that sk940 lax flight has been a333 recently. I don't yet see any cases of a340.
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 4:04 am
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The A333 to LAX (and HKG) is the Extended Range version of the A330. Those 4 birds are placed at Stockholm. I am pretty sure that the regular old A330 will not be able to neither reach LAX or SFO; They fly to MIA which was said was the max distance.

So, if anybody have been on a A330 from SFO to CPH it must have been the ER version; Can't recall if it had some rotations to SFO when they was delivered from the factory a few years back, but can recall they was "test"-flying from CPH to ORD the first couple of weeks after the delivery. Or maybe the ER version was switched due to some tech-issues with a regular bird as a last option.

Nevertheless, it seems that SAS is trying to limit the LN-RKP to the shortest destinations from primarily CPH, but of course it can (and have been) put into rotation where and when it is needed, including SFO (and PVG & NRT as it happened this week). It make perfectly sense in my view, especially when the bird was still leased with probably some kind of cost setup per mile, so it is "only" a 8 hour flight (like to EWR) where the pax is getting the "bad" experience and not the 11 hour to SFO.

Having said that, we had a trip to MIA from OSL in C with LN-RKP. It was not the end of the world, but will any day prefer any of the other new/refurbished birds...despite some of them seems already pretty worn down!
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