SAS Increases CPH EWR; New CPH SFO from April 2013
Jul 4, 2012, 9:17 am
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SAS Increases CPH EWR; New CPH SFO from April 2013
SAS has loaded new flights for Summer 2013, including Copenhagen - Newark increasing from daily to 10 weekly, and 6 weekly Copenhagen - San Francisco service.
Copenhagen – Newark eff 01APR12
SK909 CPH1225 – 1450EWR 333 x2
SK909 CPH1225 – 1450EWR 343 2
SK901 CPH1825 – 2050EWR 343 145
SK910 EWR1740 – 0715+1CPH 333 x2
SK910 EWR1740 – 0715+1CPH 343 2
SK902 EWR2330 – 1315+1CPH 343 145
Copenhagen – San Francisco eff 08APR12
SK935 CPH1225 – 1445SFO 343 x26
SK935 CPH1255 – 1515SFO 343 6
SK936 SFO1735 – 1315+1CPH 343 x2
http://airlineroute.net/2012/07/04/sk-sfoewr-s13/
Hopefully the airline will not remove these like 24-72 hours later (like CPH BEY) and blame the computer error for loading these new flights.
Copenhagen – Newark eff 01APR12
SK909 CPH1225 – 1450EWR 333 x2
SK909 CPH1225 – 1450EWR 343 2
SK901 CPH1825 – 2050EWR 343 145
SK910 EWR1740 – 0715+1CPH 333 x2
SK910 EWR1740 – 0715+1CPH 343 2
SK902 EWR2330 – 1315+1CPH 343 145
Copenhagen – San Francisco eff 08APR12
SK935 CPH1225 – 1445SFO 343 x26
SK935 CPH1255 – 1515SFO 343 6
SK936 SFO1735 – 1315+1CPH 343 x2
http://airlineroute.net/2012/07/04/sk-sfoewr-s13/
Hopefully the airline will not remove these like 24-72 hours later (like CPH BEY) and blame the computer error for loading these new flights.
Last edited by jimyvr; Jul 4, 2012 at 10:13 am
Jul 4, 2012, 12:18 pm
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Wow, but let us see what happens in the next 24 hours.
I tried to book CPH-SFO-CPH on some days in April 2013 on sas.dk and sure the direct flight was there, but the booking class and earnings of points was not shown.
But, if true, from where are they getting the airplanes?.
Is SAS given up to Finnair on Asia?
I tried to book CPH-SFO-CPH on some days in April 2013 on sas.dk and sure the direct flight was there, but the booking class and earnings of points was not shown.
But, if true, from where are they getting the airplanes?.
Is SAS given up to Finnair on Asia?
Jul 4, 2012, 12:43 pm
#6
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Location: Helsinki
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This is purely speculation, so don't take this too seriously 
My prediction is that AY, SK (and OV?) will start some form of co-operation where HEL will be the common hub for Asia, CPH will be the common hub for North America, and TLL will become a hub for (really) eastern Europe and nearer Asian destinations. AY will discontinue operations to JFK and have a codeshare via CPH, SK will discontinue Asia and have codeshares via HEL. Both will feed OV flights from TLL to eastern Europe/Asia.
AY can get the planes servicing JFK (and YYZ) to another Asian route (KUL perhaps?) and SK can get the planes from Asian routes to SFO and increased EWR, and perhaps re-instate SEA?
I know a flaw in the thinking is SIN and BKK (perhaps also PEK) as SQ and TG then have a monopoly on the direct routes from CPH/ARN. But with appropriate pricing and good plane-strategy, perhaps it would work anyways?
KF and BE will take care of the traffic between the hubs (perhaps even merged?) with a pure LCC concept, no matter if the connection is in C or Y.
I know this is purely against any alliance thinking etc, but hey, it's just speculation.
My prediction is that AY, SK (and OV?) will start some form of co-operation where HEL will be the common hub for Asia, CPH will be the common hub for North America, and TLL will become a hub for (really) eastern Europe and nearer Asian destinations. AY will discontinue operations to JFK and have a codeshare via CPH, SK will discontinue Asia and have codeshares via HEL. Both will feed OV flights from TLL to eastern Europe/Asia.
AY can get the planes servicing JFK (and YYZ) to another Asian route (KUL perhaps?) and SK can get the planes from Asian routes to SFO and increased EWR, and perhaps re-instate SEA?
I know a flaw in the thinking is SIN and BKK (perhaps also PEK) as SQ and TG then have a monopoly on the direct routes from CPH/ARN. But with appropriate pricing and good plane-strategy, perhaps it would work anyways?
KF and BE will take care of the traffic between the hubs (perhaps even merged?) with a pure LCC concept, no matter if the connection is in C or Y.
I know this is purely against any alliance thinking etc, but hey, it's just speculation.
Jul 4, 2012, 1:39 pm
#7
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My speculation
It is fun to speculate, so here is my speculation. Or maybe we should say wish thinking.
Maybe SAS has made an agreement with Airbus of buying 15(?) new Airbus 350. Until they can be delivered in 2017(?), Airbus will provide a couple of leased Airbus 330/340 so SAS can expand their intercontinental network.
They have a similar agreement with airbus about purchasing new airbus 320neo.
Maybe SAS has made an agreement with Airbus of buying 15(?) new Airbus 350. Until they can be delivered in 2017(?), Airbus will provide a couple of leased Airbus 330/340 so SAS can expand their intercontinental network.
They have a similar agreement with airbus about purchasing new airbus 320neo.
Jul 4, 2012, 11:31 pm
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Wow, but let us see what happens in the next 24 hours.
I tried to book CPH-SFO-CPH on some days in April 2013 on sas.dk and sure the direct flight was there, but the booking class and earnings of points was not shown.
But, if true, from where are they getting the airplanes?.
Is SAS given up to Finnair on Asia?
I tried to book CPH-SFO-CPH on some days in April 2013 on sas.dk and sure the direct flight was there, but the booking class and earnings of points was not shown.
But, if true, from where are they getting the airplanes?.
Is SAS given up to Finnair on Asia?
Jul 5, 2012, 12:35 am
#10
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I'm happy about SK flying to SFO but I'm curious why they chose SFO over LAX or SEA. LAX serves a bigger market and SEA was an established, popular route.
Are they choosing SFO because its ca. halfway to LAX and SEA and they want to feed into those markets from SFO?
Are they choosing SFO because its ca. halfway to LAX and SEA and they want to feed into those markets from SFO?
Jul 5, 2012, 12:41 am
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I would guess that SFO is easier to get into then LAX?
Jul 5, 2012, 1:04 am
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The business segment should be bigger in the Bay Area than in LA. And still SF is a popular leisure destination.
Jul 5, 2012, 2:26 am
#14
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Could it be BKK? Apparently they have struggled to make money on this route for quite some time (long lay-over/crew expenses/competition from EK+QR). Another good guess could be NRT where performance has been poor during the last year. Possible reductions on NRT/BKK are also supported by the fact that all 9 rotations are scheduled for A343.
Jul 5, 2012, 2:52 am
#15
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WOW SK 901-902 is back - I love it ^^^
I have been argueing for this for more than a decade now - by far the best way to get to NYC.
And SFO - not bad if this finally happens - anyone know how they will get the metal to do this? Cutbacks elsewhere? I know TG might increase BKK-CPH to twice daily using new 777's - would this mean the end of SK on that route?
Or are we talking effects of the SQ/SK JV that has been rumoured?
I have been argueing for this for more than a decade now - by far the best way to get to NYC.
And SFO - not bad if this finally happens - anyone know how they will get the metal to do this? Cutbacks elsewhere? I know TG might increase BKK-CPH to twice daily using new 777's - would this mean the end of SK on that route?
Or are we talking effects of the SQ/SK JV that has been rumoured?