SAS to Tel Aviv
Mar 29, 2012, 9:03 am
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Twice weekly ,Thu/Mon, definately says "business travel" to me. Possibly with some Israeli leisure travel over their weekends thrown in.
There is a pretty big jewish population in Malmo that i guess SAS is trying to target here, so I am not sure that the late arrival to CPH is a big issue.
There is a pretty big jewish population in Malmo that i guess SAS is trying to target here, so I am not sure that the late arrival to CPH is a big issue.
But maybe SAS is aiming to sell 700 oneway tickets to the jewish community of Malmö...?
Mar 29, 2012, 9:09 am
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Wikipedia says there are 7-9000 & aprox 20000 people of jewish faith in DK&SE respectively. There has to be some serious tourism promotion involved (maybe a tour operator block booked some capacity) to make this work. VFR is not going to fill that bird, especially with tons of space already available ex European hubs.
Mar 29, 2012, 10:09 am
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Mar 29, 2012, 10:18 am
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Sunday afternoon Israel to CPH. Israeli business folks heading to Europe for the work week. European tourists heading back from a warm weekend.
Thursday evening to Israel. Israeli business folk heading home for the weekend and tourists heading for a long weekend in a warm climate.
With BetterPlace's installation in Denmark this would seem to support that well potentially.
Mar 29, 2012, 12:52 pm
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Twice weekly ,Thu/Mon, definately says "business travel" to me. Possibly with some Israeli leisure travel over their weekends thrown in.
There is a pretty big jewish population in Malmo that i guess SAS is trying to target here, so I am not sure that the late arrival to CPH is a big issue.
There is a pretty big jewish population in Malmo that i guess SAS is trying to target here, so I am not sure that the late arrival to CPH is a big issue.
This route seems more oriented toward the kind of business traffic yosithezet mentioned and perhaps some long-weekend leisure/package tour short excursions.
Mar 29, 2012, 1:29 pm
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Wikipedia says there are 7-9000 & aprox 20000 people of jewish faith in DK&SE respectively. There has to be some serious tourism promotion involved (maybe a tour operator block booked some capacity) to make this work. VFR is not going to fill that bird, especially with tons of space already available ex European hubs.
Mar 29, 2012, 3:56 pm
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I doubt that the majority of traffic is meant to flow in that direction. What would make more sense IMO is the following.
Sunday afternoon Israel to CPH. Israeli business folks heading to Europe for the work week. European tourists heading back from a warm weekend.
Thursday evening to Israel. Israeli business folk heading home for the weekend and tourists heading for a long weekend in a warm climate.
With BetterPlace's installation in Denmark this would seem to support that well potentially.
Sunday afternoon Israel to CPH. Israeli business folks heading to Europe for the work week. European tourists heading back from a warm weekend.
Thursday evening to Israel. Israeli business folk heading home for the weekend and tourists heading for a long weekend in a warm climate.
With BetterPlace's installation in Denmark this would seem to support that well potentially.
May 13, 2012, 2:46 am
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Any thoughts regarding what C service will be like on this flight?
Clearly, it will have Euro Business seating (Y seats with the middle blocked), but will they provide better catering than a typical Euro C flight? What about entertainment, amenity kit, etc?
Looking at SeatGuru, it appears the A319 and A321 are listed as all-economy. Does that mean that the first few rows don't even have better pitch?
Thanks,
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Clearly, it will have Euro Business seating (Y seats with the middle blocked), but will they provide better catering than a typical Euro C flight? What about entertainment, amenity kit, etc?
Looking at SeatGuru, it appears the A319 and A321 are listed as all-economy. Does that mean that the first few rows don't even have better pitch?
Thanks,
Bostonbali
May 13, 2012, 3:02 am
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Any thoughts regarding what C service will be like on this flight?
Clearly, it will have Euro Business seating (Y seats with the middle blocked), but will they provide better catering than a typical Euro C flight? What about entertainment, amenity kit, etc?
Looking at SeatGuru, it appears the A319 and A321 are listed as all-economy. Does that mean that the first few rows don't even have better pitch?
Thanks,
Bostonbali
Clearly, it will have Euro Business seating (Y seats with the middle blocked), but will they provide better catering than a typical Euro C flight? What about entertainment, amenity kit, etc?
Looking at SeatGuru, it appears the A319 and A321 are listed as all-economy. Does that mean that the first few rows don't even have better pitch?
Thanks,
Bostonbali
The first few rows don't have a better pitch.
I just hope they will start flying! I flew last week TLV-CPH with connections, what a nightmare...
May 14, 2012, 3:02 am
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It could be that there is actually need for some business travelling after all:
Eksport (1000 DKK)
I ALT 2010 2011
Irak 284 928 244 364
Iran 1 027 445 1 172 309
Israel 1 129 125 1 211 979
Kina 13 392 422 15 142 417
Kuwait 476 678 410 393
Libanon 625 754 659 106
Liberia 52 654 34 498
Libyen 269 864 156 152
Qatar 521 186 460 157
This shows that there is value in the export to Israel (increasing). So let us see if this is the same reasoning that SAS have made :-)
/HerrO
Eksport (1000 DKK)
I ALT 2010 2011
Irak 284 928 244 364
Iran 1 027 445 1 172 309
Israel 1 129 125 1 211 979
Kina 13 392 422 15 142 417
Kuwait 476 678 410 393
Libanon 625 754 659 106
Liberia 52 654 34 498
Libyen 269 864 156 152
Qatar 521 186 460 157
This shows that there is value in the export to Israel (increasing). So let us see if this is the same reasoning that SAS have made :-)
/HerrO
Jul 2, 2012, 11:59 pm
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Due to award availability, I will be flying FRA-CPH-TLV. Arriving at CPH on LH822 at 08:20 and supposedly making it to SK771 at 09:00. Doable? I guess that if UA offered and ticketed this, it's legal... but does anyone know if any of those flights are remote-park+bus? What if I misconnect - will they put me on other *A via FRA/MUC/VIE/IST etc?
Jul 3, 2012, 1:35 am
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Jul 3, 2012, 5:46 pm
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Due to award availability, I will be flying FRA-CPH-TLV. Arriving at CPH on LH822 at 08:20 and supposedly making it to SK771 at 09:00. Doable? I guess that if UA offered and ticketed this, it's legal... but does anyone know if any of those flights are remote-park+bus? What if I misconnect - will they put me on other *A via FRA/MUC/VIE/IST etc?
Of course there will be tightened security at the gate, but that shouldn’t take too long. My guess is, that this will be done in one of the more roominess C-gates, which is an integrated part of the airport (after passport control, though).
Aug 9, 2012, 2:16 am
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Report upcoming
Hello ladies and gentlemen,
I am new to this forum, so I thought I might start off with a report on the TLV-CPH route, which I will be undertaking tonight in Economy Extra. Stay tuned!
And yes, I will make a point of asking for the champagne which I understand has been discontinued in Economy Extra, just to keep the pressure on SAS on this one....
I am new to this forum, so I thought I might start off with a report on the TLV-CPH route, which I will be undertaking tonight in Economy Extra. Stay tuned!
And yes, I will make a point of asking for the champagne which I understand has been discontinued in Economy Extra, just to keep the pressure on SAS on this one....