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At gate ventilation
Maybe not the right forum as it is a general topic, but since I mainly fly SK I post here.
Why can't the ventilation in the planes run on electricity when the plane is "connected" to the gate? Every time you board a flight it is hot and the air is thick even when the outside temperature is rather moderate and no strong sunshine. As soon as they start the engines and the ventilation works you can se the relieve among all the pax. The suit is not the most comfortable garment then... On my last flight we had to sit in the flight for some time, but luckily the FA:s opened all the doors and created a nice draft. But it didn't take more than two minutes after closing the doors until the cabin was hot and the air thick again. The flight was not fully loaded. Please give us an aircraft that can run the ventilation on electricity from the gate!! |
I would think it has something to do with safety. I remember seeing an Air Crash Investigation on National Geographic which was partly caused by sitting on the tarmac with the aircon running for a long time before taking off.
That will heat up the aircon system significantly and apparently that is (at least in that plane) sitting right below one of the fuel tanks. I am just speculating though, but I'm sure someone knows the exact reason and will pass by and tell us :) |
Originally Posted by appfly
(Post 14546142)
Why can't the ventilation in the planes run on electricity when the plane is "connected" to the gate?
However, you can hook up external air conditioning feeds to gate-side planes. They look like fat yellow hoses. I have no idea how common they are in our part of the world, though. |
Originally Posted by SirRagnar
(Post 14548877)
I would think it has something to do with safety. I remember seeing an Air Crash Investigation on National Geographic which was partly caused by sitting on the tarmac with the aircon running for a long time before taking off.
That will heat up the aircon system significantly and apparently that is (at least in that plane) sitting right below one of the fuel tanks. I am just speculating though, but I'm sure someone knows the exact reason and will pass by and tell us :) Check for same query... ^ |
lnixon is absolutely right. You can't do that on electricity. And often you need a cooled air, not just airflow. There are ground airconditioning units, however in Nothern parts of the planet they are not usually available in numbers AND they are expensive for airlines to use.
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Originally Posted by lnixon
(Post 14549904)
However, you can hook up external air conditioning feeds to gate-side planes. They look like fat yellow hoses. I have no idea how common they are in our part of the world, though.
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As said earlier you need the APU running to get air conditioning, and most bigger airports today have a rule not to start the APU until 10min before departure. This is the case in CPH among others.
All for the environment, right? :o |
Originally Posted by Crille
(Post 14551588)
As said earlier you need the APU running to get air conditioning, and most bigger airports today have a rule not to start the APU until 10min before departure. This is the case in CPH among others.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/122818/pakistan.jpg |
Noted yesterday that SK didn't use APU on the ground and also didn't have external ventilation connected to their A321 at CPH yesterday :td: Made it pretty cosy standing at the gate with 25C outside :rolleyes: Talk about saving at the wrong spot.
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
(Post 14554647)
Noted yesterday that SK didn't use APU on the ground and also didn't have external ventilation connected to their A321 at CPH yesterday :td: Made it pretty cosy standing at the gate with 25C outside :rolleyes: Talk about saving at the wrong spot.
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Originally Posted by Someone83
(Post 14555036)
Don't now the details of it, but there are quite strict restrictions regarding APU use at gate in CPH
Originally Posted by CPH Env Report 2008
The noise impact from aircraft on the ground primarily
comes from engine run-ups, but the use of APUs also contributes to the noise exposure. Most jet aircraft have an APU, a small jet engine which produces power and pressurised air for the aircraft when it is on the ground and the main engines are turned off. To reduce noise, the APU may only be used for five minutes before the aircraft leaves the stand and five minutes after it arrives at the stand. For the rest of the time, the aircraft must use the power and ventilation facilities provided by the airport at most stands. At 103 out of the 121 numbered stands at Copenhagen Airport, we have installed stationary power supply facilities for aircraft. At stands that do not have these facilities, the aircraft can use a GPU (ground power unit), which is a diesel or electrically powered generator that emits considerably less noise than an APU. CPH made regular inspections during the year to monitor the use of APUs at the aircraft stands. In 2008, 117 inspections were made to check the use of APUs by aircraft; a representative selection of the airport’s stands used for jet aircraft were inspected. In 75 cases, the rules were complied with, whilst the conditions for use of APUs were not complied with in 42 cases. Accordingly, 36% of the inspections showed violation of the rules. An evaluation of the last four years of aircraft stand inspections shows that stands with power and ventilation facilities showed a decline in violations from 62% in 2005 to 13% in 2008. The stands that do not have these facilities saw only a small drop in violations, in spite of a campaign to observe the rules in force brought about by the fact that in 2008 every second aircraft (52%) did not comply with the rules. The campaign will continue at a greater intensity in 2009. In connection with most of the recorded violations, CPH took direct action by boarding the aircraft in question and notifying the pilot that the airport’s rules on use of APUs must be complied with. |
what a nice information about gate ventilation, It's really new for me. There are several manufactures crafting air ventilators with different options and price rates.
Thanks for this great sharing. |
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