Opinions on irr-ops?
Apr 27, 2008, 4:35 pm
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Opinions on irr-ops?
Hello all,
I'm new to the Bay area and thought I'd ask your opinions of what to do during irr-ops... I will be flying from ORD quite often and have noticed that San Jose and Oakland are potential alternative routes. During Irr-ops have any of you flown into them or used them as a potential alternative or is it a bad idea for reasons unknown to me?
Any general feedback would be greatly appreciated the day things go south
I'm new to the Bay area and thought I'd ask your opinions of what to do during irr-ops... I will be flying from ORD quite often and have noticed that San Jose and Oakland are potential alternative routes. During Irr-ops have any of you flown into them or used them as a potential alternative or is it a bad idea for reasons unknown to me?
Any general feedback would be greatly appreciated the day things go south
Apr 27, 2008, 4:38 pm
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Hello all,
I'm new to the Bay area and thought I'd ask your opinions of what to do during irr-ops... I will be flying from ORD quite often and have noticed that San Jose and Oakland are potential alternative routes. During Irr-ops have any of you flown into them or used them as a potential alternative or is it a bad idea for reasons unknown to me?
Any general feedback would be greatly appreciated the day things go south
I'm new to the Bay area and thought I'd ask your opinions of what to do during irr-ops... I will be flying from ORD quite often and have noticed that San Jose and Oakland are potential alternative routes. During Irr-ops have any of you flown into them or used them as a potential alternative or is it a bad idea for reasons unknown to me?
Any general feedback would be greatly appreciated the day things go south
Apr 27, 2008, 4:43 pm
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I've been bumped off ORD-OAK and flown ORD-SFO instead. In that case, UA even provided a voucher for ground transport.
Public transit is pretty decent at OAK and SFO, so it only takes about an hour to get between them. You could use public transit from SJC using bus to Caltrain or BART in Fremont, and make it work, but that would be my last option.
Just depends how badly you want to get home. You do need to watch for things like train schedules late at night (midnight BART closure, for instance).
Public transit is pretty decent at OAK and SFO, so it only takes about an hour to get between them. You could use public transit from SJC using bus to Caltrain or BART in Fremont, and make it work, but that would be my last option.
Just depends how badly you want to get home. You do need to watch for things like train schedules late at night (midnight BART closure, for instance).
Apr 27, 2008, 7:22 pm
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At SFO, we don't call them irrops -- they're just ops. On-time arrivals and departures are irregular. 
I've had less trouble connecting through ORD than DEN -- DEN is just a disaster, with incredibly rude CSRs on the evening shift (YMMV if you're 1K -- I wouldn't know). Either way, I'd strongly recommend not booking the last flight of the evening to SFO -- it's a sure recipe for disaster.
I've had less trouble connecting through ORD than DEN -- DEN is just a disaster, with incredibly rude CSRs on the evening shift (YMMV if you're 1K -- I wouldn't know). Either way, I'd strongly recommend not booking the last flight of the evening to SFO -- it's a sure recipe for disaster.
Apr 27, 2008, 7:38 pm
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At SFO, we don't call them irrops -- they're just ops. On-time arrivals and departures are irregular.
I've had less trouble connecting through ORD than DEN -- DEN is just a disaster, with incredibly rude CSRs on the evening shift (YMMV if you're 1K -- I wouldn't know). Either way, I'd strongly recommend not booking the last flight of the evening to SFO -- it's a sure recipe for disaster.
I've had less trouble connecting through ORD than DEN -- DEN is just a disaster, with incredibly rude CSRs on the evening shift (YMMV if you're 1K -- I wouldn't know). Either way, I'd strongly recommend not booking the last flight of the evening to SFO -- it's a sure recipe for disaster.
SFO ops aren't actually that bad. There are delays when there are clouds over the approach but those delays tend to be a couple of hours. It's more of a problem for people who are connecting at SFO than those who are O&D here. The same thing happens at ORD if the wind blows more than 10 MPH and all of ORD comes to a grinding halt with 4+ hour delays and 50% cancellations the minute a bolt of lightening hits the state of IL. And don't get me started about afternoon ops at EWR even in good weather.
Apr 27, 2008, 8:04 pm
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SFO ops aren't actually that bad. There are delays when there are clouds over the approach but those delays tend to be a couple of hours.
It's more of a problem for people who are connecting at SFO than those who are O&D here.
The same thing happens at ORD if the wind blows more than 10 MPH and all of ORD comes to a grinding halt with 4+ hour delays and 50% cancellations the minute a bolt of lightening hits the state of IL. And don't get me started about afternoon ops at EWR even in good weather.
Apr 27, 2008, 9:41 pm
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Thanks everyone for the comments. The cab is expensed so if it just means a more expensive cab ride I will not have any problems. Great to know they are options (albeit a little far).
Apr 27, 2008, 10:02 pm
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Late at night they aren't really far from SFO at all. SJC is the farthest and adds about 20-25 minutes to the ride.
Apr 27, 2008, 10:04 pm
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I should have qualified my comment -- I was referring only to UA.
Well, yeah, but a couple of hour delay is, at least in my opinion, pretty irregular.
I've gotten stranded in DEN a couple of times, and it's chronic problem on my LAX/SFO commute. Even a year ago, when I was doing the same commute, I could count on getting to LAX from SFO and back well within the work day. Now, I always go out or back the day before I need to be somewhere.
New Jersey has an airport?
Well, yeah, but a couple of hour delay is, at least in my opinion, pretty irregular.
I've gotten stranded in DEN a couple of times, and it's chronic problem on my LAX/SFO commute. Even a year ago, when I was doing the same commute, I could count on getting to LAX from SFO and back well within the work day. Now, I always go out or back the day before I need to be somewhere.
New Jersey has an airport?
Apr 27, 2008, 10:58 pm
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Apr 27, 2008, 11:32 pm
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