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SFO is WSJ's top airport of 2022

SFO is WSJ's top airport of 2022

Old Nov 17, 22, 8:16 pm
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SFO is WSJ's top airport of 2022

Article - https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-bes...22-11668645546 (may be paywalled, although it's working for me at the moment without one)
Video - https://www.wsj.com/video/better-log...F41986E37.html

Better Logistics, Room to Relax: Why SFO Is WSJ’s Best Airport of 2022
San Francisco International Airport was named WSJ’s best large airport this year, thanks in part to a $2.5 billion upgrade of its Harvey Milk Terminal 1. WSJ toured behind-the-scenes operations and tested the amenities to see what makes SFO stand out
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Old Nov 18, 22, 8:42 am
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SFO certainly gets my vote. We were just at JFK this weekend . . . the loooong walk from T5 to Airtrain made me realize how easy it is to get from one terminal to another at SFO.

Ironic though that WSJ award is based on the new T1 as that is by far the least pax-friendly terminal at SFO IMO, with very slow security and very long walks to and from most gates.
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Old Nov 18, 22, 10:15 am
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Plus T1 is great for those in Sfo not flying with United / Star and AA/AS / Oneworld. Seriously who really is frequently flying on delta / southwest if they live in San Francisco? And heaven help pax who arrive after 11p - there’s super limited infrastructure. This isn’t Dubai or the other airports that have flights every hour.
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Old Nov 19, 22, 12:37 am
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Originally Posted by gaobest View Post
Plus T1 is great for those in Sfo not flying with United / Star and AA/AS / Oneworld. Seriously who really is frequently flying on delta / southwest if they live in San Francisco?
I'm a SFO-based Delta DM and from the size of the upgrade lists (certainly pre COVID and also now that travel is rebounding) there are plenty of us.

Also it seems like your mental map of which airlines are in which terminals is out of date.
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Old Nov 19, 22, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by Zorak View Post
Also it seems like your mental map of which airlines are in which terminals is out of date.
By many years.
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Originally Posted by Zorak View Post
I'm a SFO-based Delta DM and from the size of the upgrade lists (certainly pre COVID and also now that travel is rebounding) there are plenty of us.

Also it seems like your mental map of which airlines are in which terminals is out of date.
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By many years.
Too many edibles?

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Originally Posted by DELee View Post
Too many edibles?

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Too many King Crab Legs. As for SFO, other than the runway situation in the slightest of inclement weather, it is perhaps the most compact and comfortable big city airport anywhere. I could nitpick over this and that over the years, but as a whole, it is quite nice from the passenger perspective.

Now, as to those DL gates and UG lists (where I'm a lowly PM, unlike Zorak the Exalted), they're not my favo(u)rite, especially as I feel like I'm going into a bank vault that is going to lock behind me every time I board a plane.
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Originally Posted by Zorak View Post
I'm a SFO-based Delta DM and from the size of the upgrade lists (certainly pre COVID and also now that travel is rebounding) there are plenty of us.

Also it seems like your mental map of which airlines are in which terminals is out of date.
i know majorly whos in T1 and who isnt in T1. Delta is the only us3 airline in T1. Of course, maybe UAL and AA/AS moved out of T3 & T2 into T1 in which case itll be a treat to finally experience and see T1 after that huge renovation.

i am puzzled with delta out of Sfo because I cant picture a huge range for nonstops for medium tier cities - I fear delta requires connections via SLC / MSP. Ive only flown DL back from MSP.
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Old Nov 20, 22, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by gaobest View Post
i know majorly who’s in T1 and who isn’t in T1.
You apparently don't (if it were me, I might have done some searching after being told my info was out of date, instead of doubling down )

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Delta is the only us3 airline in T1.
I will grant you that the gates that DL uses are in what used to be called T1, concourse C, but with the construction going on with the landside terminal, C was redesignated as part of T2.

But even setting that aside, the fact is that the new Harvey Milk T1 consists only of concourse B, and is in use by AA, jetBlue, and Southwest: https://www.flysfo.com/passengers/fl...o/airlines-sfo

San Francisco / SFO Moved to Terminal 1 2020 (inc. new Admirals Club)

Alaska is going to move to T1: Alaska Air Moving to T1 at SFO in 2024

DL primarily uses C gates but sometimes D. Since the opening of the D-E airside connector UA has started using D gates as well.

Originally Posted by gaobest View Post
i am puzzled with delta out of Sfo because I can’t picture a huge range for nonstops for medium tier cities - I fear delta requires connections via SLC / MSP. I’ve only flown DL back from MSP.
I can't speak for others, but for me one of the things that drove me to DL was that one of my primary destinations effectively required a connection regardless of which airline I flew, since the only non-stop at the time was a red-eye eastbound and a 6am flight westbound. Not that I never fly UA, but the mix is about 70-30 or 80-20 in favor of DL.
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Old Nov 20, 22, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Zorak View Post
I can't speak for others, but for me one of the things that drove me to DL was that one of my primary destinations effectively required a connection regardless of which airline I flew, since the only non-stop at the time was a red-eye eastbound and a 6am flight westbound. Not that I never fly UA, but the mix is about 70-30 or 80-20 in favor of DL.
Makes sense. I certainly prefer flying DL over UA when I have the choice.

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Delta is the only us3 airline in T1.
Except it's not in T1 anymore. And last time I checked, AA still qualified as one of the three US legacy carriers.
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Old Nov 20, 22, 12:54 pm
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Old Nov 20, 22, 2:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
Makes sense. I certainly prefer flying DL over UA when I have the choice.

Except it's not in T1 anymore. And last time I checked, AA still qualified as one of the three US legacy carriers.
Well, si y no. DL didn't move. The entry point did, now via T2, but I expect it will be called T1 again once the current hole in the ground is completed, and you'll be able to go from Int'l A to Int'l G (albeit in a roundabout way), all airside,
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Old Nov 20, 22, 6:18 pm
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These Sfo changes are amazing. I still can’t see how Sfo wins wsj award. Impressive that AA is in T1 - I guess I didn’t fly AA in 2021! Definitely not 2022 (I only flew to Disneyland!)

I’m certainly looking forward to a future T1 visit.
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Old Nov 21, 22, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by Eastbay1K View Post
Well, si y no. DL didn't move. The entry point did, now via T2,
Is that permanent? Last I recall, the security station is still in place at the C Concourse, but collecting dust and cobwebs.
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Old Nov 21, 22, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by dhuey View Post
Is that permanent? Last I recall, the security station is still in place at the C Concourse, but collecting dust and cobwebs.
It's pending completion of the brand new T1 North Lobby, which I believe is currently slated for 2024. They now have the steel framing up, so no longer just a hole in the ground.

I won't be surprised if they also redo C security to install those horrible automated belts they now use for B concourse.
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