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Bay Area orders ‘shelter in place,’ only essential businesses in 6 counties to May 31
Originally Posted by SamirD
(Post 32194698)
Important takeaways:
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San Francisco announced curfew
We were going drive up to SF for a few days but decided to cancel last week. We would have been stuck at a hotel for days!
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...needs-n1160916 |
You could have visited Napa or Sonoma. They're open for business.
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Bay Area "Shelter In Place"
The order now adopted by seven Bay Area counties (Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz) bans all non-essential travel effective midnight tonight. Agencies are vague on enforcement efforts, if any. I will be curious to hear how this will be enforced, if at all, with respect to departures from the three major Bay Area airports (OAK, SFO, SJC). Will passengers be asked to justify their travel, or will it be the honor system?
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What's their definition of travel? For example, are car trips included?
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 32196046)
What's their definition of travel? For example, are car trips included?
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About to land in Oakland
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Originally Posted by worldwidedreamer
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About to land in Oakland
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Local ABC: https://abc7news.com/health/coronavi...order/6019152/
What is considered 'essential travel?'
SFGate/SF Chronicle: https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/artic...s-15135381.php WILL POLICE BE ENFORCING THE ORDER?Yes, but with a "compassionate, common sense approach," said San Francisco Police Chief Bill Scott. "We are asking for voluntary compliance. Yes, by law, enforcement is an option, but that is not our desire. That is not what we intend to do," Scott said. "We intend to adhere to the spirit of what that's about in keeping people safe and keeping this virus from spreading.[...] WHAT HAPPENS IF I LEAVE MY HOME IN A SHELTER IN PLACE COUNTY?It's unclear. According to [San Francisco Director of Public Health Dr. Grant Colfax], people who leave their county starting on March 17 will technically be out of compliance."At this time, in compliance with the order, people who leave the county during this time — except for essential travel — would be out of compliance coming back between now and April 7," he said on Monday. "People now currently out of the county would be able to return." However, there is no indication from CHP that checkpoints would be set up. |
Originally Posted by tom911
(Post 32195892)
You could have visited Napa or Sonoma. They're open for business.
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I just wonder if this will lead to setup of 'Neighborhood Committees' enforcing the ban like it is in China but twist of US realities - that it will be 'well regulated militia' on ground...
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Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 32196039)
Agencies are vague on enforcement efforts, if any. I will be curious to hear how this will be enforced, if at all, with respect to departures from the three major Bay Area airports (OAK, SFO, SJC). Will passengers be asked to justify their travel, or will it be the honor system?
As for the San Mateo Police Department, education will be our primary goal, leaving enforcement as our last option. We have a tremendous partnership with our San Mateo community and our hope is to collaborate, ensuring compliance through education. As a last resort, officers have the option to issue a misdemeanor citation and/or arrest for non-compliance. Fines range from $50-$1,000 per incident. Regarding police operations, effective today, the San Mateo Police Department will be increasing patrols and the number of officers on the street to help maintain order and public safety for all San Mateans. And also if you read the entire real order (not just the fluff media version), it spells everything out quite clearly in terms of travel and what will be open/closed: https://www.sfdph.org/dph/alerts/fil...r-in-Place.pdf h. For the purposes of this Order, “Essential Travel” includes travel for any of the following purposes. Individuals engaged in any Essential Travel must comply with all Social Distancing Requirements as defined in this Section. i. Any travel related to the provision of or access to Essential Activities, Essential Governmental Functions, Essential Businesses, or Minimum Basic Operations. ii. Travel to care for elderly, minors, dependents, persons with disabilities, or other vulnerable persons. iii. Travel to or from educational institutions for purposes of receiving materials for distance learning, for receiving meals, and any other related services. iv. Travel to return to a place of residence from outside the jurisdiction. v. Travel required by law enforcement or court order. vi. Travel required for non-residents to return to their place of residence outside the County. Individuals are strongly encouraged to verify that their transportation out of the County remains available and functional prior to commencing such travel. |
Originally Posted by invisible
(Post 32196112)
I just wonder if this will lead to setup of 'Neighborhood Committees' enforcing the ban like it is in China but twist of US realities - that it will be 'well regulated militia' on ground...
I think the best thing anyone can do is read the whole health order--it even specifically says that you need to do so: Please read this Order carefully. Violation of or failure to comply with this Order is a misdemeanor punishable by fine, imprisonment, or both. (California Health and Safety Code § 120295, et seq.; California Penal Code §§ 69, 148(a)(1); San Francisco Administrative Code section 7.17(b).) Download the pdf for your county and read it end to end. It spells everything out and generally is a lot more accommodating then the media would like to convey (like plumbers and laundromats being essential businesses). Media causing a panic like this is really in bad taste at a time like this. My wife even caused me to panic until I read this whole thing. |
Originally Posted by SamirD
(Post 32196150)
San Mateo police department isn't vague about this at all:
And thanks, but I've read the media reports and am quite familiar with the terms of the Order itself.
Originally Posted by SamirD
(Post 32196155)
Download the pdf for your county
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Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 32196157)
Not sure what that has to do with my question, which is whether there will be any enforcement at Bay Area airports. Certainly San Mateo police have nothing to say on that subject, since they have no jurisdiction at SFO, SJC, or OAK.
And thanks, but I've read the media reports and am quite familiar with the terms of the Order itself. It is very clear to me that anyone that needs to fly for any of the defined travel reasons can without restriction and that the airports won't be closed. |
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