dhuey

At least so far, the exceptions for the shelter in place orders are what you might reasonably expect. Perhaps they will tighten up a lot, but at the moment you can still go out and do the essential things. The key is, only those essential things, and to the full extent possible, at a safe distance from others.

Eastbay1K

It is rather like Christmas Day around these parts ... except more places for take out open, and no movie theaters open. Although it is only "day 3," it appears to be a quite high level of compliance, and I don't expect there will be any actual citations issued. A couple of weeks from now, who knows.

What I have found remarkable is that all the turkeys that wander around the streets, even typically so brave as to cross high-traffic intersections and clog traffic, have not been seen this week.

SamirD

Great to hear. My wife is just going for a walk once a day to try to get in her steps and it's a ghost town.

Good to see the turkeys not wandering as they would become someone's dinner in times like this, hahahahaha.

dhuey

This is the great unknown, here and elsewhere. For millions of people, these restrictions are extremely painful, financially. At some point it would get to the point of wide scale noncompliance.

Eastbay1K

probably starting with the Speakeasy Barber Shop.

gaobest

with all the grocery shopping, I think it’ll be hard for me to return to restaurants. I’m sympathetic and also fear that most gift cards will become worthless as small businesses close. Commercial rents are brutal.

SamirD

There are some programs rolling out to help businesses weather the storm.

It's not any easier for the landlords in these cases either as banks as of now don't have any relief either. I'm dealing with this exact situation in my work.

Eastbay1K

There are going to be, contrary to popular San Francisco belief, many examples of "not all tenants are good" and "not all landlords are bad."

Eastbay1K

As seen in Albany today.
(Yes, there is an Albany in California.)

SamirD

Yes, always nice to mix politics into a medical pandemic.

dhuey

This is the only time in my 30 years of living in California when it’s probably safer for the homeless to be outdoors than in a good homeless shelter. The problem with the later is how close together they are with other homeless persons. Even in encampments, they are usually spaced apart, often in their own tents.

I don’t mean to suggest that living outside is any sort of good thing for the homeless. But at this moment it might be a less bad option than a shelter.

KathyWdrf

There are quite a number of homeless people who live in their vehicles. That is probably better (safer, pandemic-wise) than most shelters right now.

Eastbay1K

People have often ridiculed (or not quite outright) on why I've got a Costco membership. Living in earthquakeland, I typically have a Costco-sized pack of TP, Kleenex and paper towels on hand. This, along with some canned or other sealed pouch type foods in limited quantities. Sometimes I run out (as I did with TP, fortunately a couple months ago and restocked) but not frequently. I usually don't have enough water or other liquid beverages at home, but typically some. I'm not hoarding. I use these things but have a couple months' supply of the paper goods, just because.

On the other hand, most of my foodstuffs are purchased on an every-couple-days basis. Fresh, local, organic and sustainable is only as good as you can get "fresh, local, organic and sustainable!"

MDtR-Chicago

Not necessarily your situation but the thing I can't understand is:

I've heard from so many people that "lines are crazy on the weekends"... but in the SF tech company community specifically, everyone I know has considerable schedule flexibility right now.

Why is anyone working in tech in SF at a store on a weekend?! These are specifically the people who should NOT be shopping during prime shopping hours, so that the people who are working essential services have an opportunity to shop without getting sick!

The only answer I've heard so far is "well... that's when I do my shopping..." which is a pretty lame answer, in my opinion.

Eastbay1K

Today's "6 feet away" walk (3.1 miles):

Whole Foods had plenty of available parking. (Didn't go near the store - but rare to see empty spaces at any open hour there.) More places that are going to be closed for weeks are boarding up their windows. I can't say I blame them. Some are retail, some are restaurants/bars.

Some people smile and say hi when you walk by, others refuse to look your way.