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Originally Posted by gaobest
(Post 35318795)
I thought Clear + Pre meant going with clear and then to the front of the Pre queue. Surely that’s time saving.
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Originally Posted by nnn
(Post 35330802)
Basically yes, but that doesn’t help you when the Clear line is longer than the Pre-Check line, although IME that’s not the norm even at SFO T3.
I'd say I actually saved time with Clear once out of my past ten flights. I used to be a huge Clear fan but the utility has really declined. |
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 35333345)
Regular Pre is faster when there is no line. It takes longer to deal with the scanners and Clear agents than just handing your ID to the TSA/Covenant officer. Add in the frequent chaos around the Clear kiosks, with untrained employees and new customers, plus the very frequent "ID Verification" checks, and Clear can now take 2-3x as long as just walking up and handing over your DL.
I'd say I actually saved time with Clear once out of my past ten flights. I used to be a huge Clear fan but the utility has really declined. |
Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 35333345)
Regular Pre is faster when there is no line. It takes longer to deal with the scanners and Clear agents than just handing your ID to the TSA/Covenant officer. Add in the frequent chaos around the Clear kiosks, with untrained employees and new customers, plus the very frequent "ID Verification" checks, and Clear can now take 2-3x as long as just walking up and handing over your DL.
I'd say I actually saved time with Clear once out of my past ten flights. I used to be a huge Clear fan but the utility has really declined. |
Originally Posted by nnn
(Post 35333404)
I went through SFO T3 yesterday and Clear had no line whereas Pre-Check had a couple of wraps around the snake. So we probably saved time in Clear.
This morning at T1 it was walk right up to the Covenant agent, and I definitely saved time vs. Clear. (Then of course had to wait in a long line caused by the unbelievably slow automated bag scanners, so net result was a complete wash.) |
Hot off the press data point. About an hour ago, I entered the T2 Clear/pre line. Guy behind me was confused and was Pre only. They sent him around. I got "random" ID check (and random patdown). Guy who went around was right behind me after the ID check and in the security line. So, it was exactly even.
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Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 35335625)
Then of course had to wait in a long line caused by the unbelievably slow automated bag scanners, so net result was a complete wash.)
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Friday, mid-day, Terminal 3... the Premier security checkpoint between 3 and International was closed. Main security checkpoint apocalyptic. Backed up past the Premier brag drop area toward the Terminal 2 connector. Looked like at least an hour wait. Everything funneled into a single lane, no regard to Premier status. Didn't even look like they had a separate Pre-Check or Clear line at all. Utter chaos of people trying to jump into the line, trying to form additional lines, arguing with the line managers, children crying, etc.
Doubled back to the International checkpoint. Calm and peaceful. 10 minute delay. All lines appropriately managed. I haven't seen it this bad in T3 since pre-pandemic. Insane. |
Originally Posted by MDtR-Chicago
(Post 35351140)
Friday, mid-day, Terminal 3... the Premier security checkpoint between 3 and International was closed. Main security checkpoint apocalyptic. Backed up past the Premier brag drop area toward the Terminal 2 connector.
Smart move to head over to G security. |
Originally Posted by dhuey
(Post 35352418)
Pretty predictable that 3E security is gong to be overloaded if 3F is closed mid-day on a Friday in the summer. I wonder if TSA is having staffing shortages.
Smart move to head over to G security. |
Originally Posted by dhuey
(Post 35352418)
Pretty predictable that 3E security is gong to be overloaded if 3F is closed mid-day on a Friday in the summer. I wonder if TSA is having staffing shortages.
(and btw, SFO is not staffed by TSA, it's Covenant Security.)
Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
(Post 35352424)
Curious - which is the better move - going to D or G security?
Though with Pre and Clear, I've never had to wait more than about 10 minutes at F1. |
Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
(Post 35352424)
Curious - which is the better move - going to D or G security?
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Originally Posted by dhuey
(Post 35352499)
I think I’d always try G first. I’ve never seen G get really bad, but I have seen D get crazy. Also, I would think that G has a lower portion of PreCheck passengers (more foreigners).
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My brother will be flying in from CPH. Is there a website that reflects how busy incoming passport control and luggage carousels are at a given time, based on say arriving flights?
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Originally Posted by dhuey
(Post 35352499)
I think I’d always try G first. I’ve never seen G get really bad, but I have seen D get crazy. Also, I would think that G has a lower portion of PreCheck passengers (more foreigners).
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