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Zorak Jun 9, 2019 4:32 pm


Originally Posted by busy (Post 31186404)
Read through this thread and just wanted to confirm. To go between UA and AA domestic gates you must clear security (terminal 3 to 1) even if no checked luggage?

That is correct. They are not connected airside.

docbert Jun 9, 2019 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by busy (Post 31186404)
Read through this thread and just wanted to confirm. To go between UA and AA domestic gates you must clear security (terminal 3 to 1) even if no checked luggage?

AA is in terminal 2, not terminal 1.

However the end result is the same - T2 and T3 are not connected airside.

dhuey Jun 10, 2019 9:35 am


Originally Posted by docbert (Post 31186762)
AA is in terminal 2, not terminal 1.

However the end result is the same - T2 and T3 are not connected airside.

Nitpick: AA sometimes uses a couple of gates in T1-C (the mostly Delta concourse). Still, the advice to the OP is the same even in the unlikely event that in incoming flight arrives in one of these T1-C gates.

Jericho-79 Jun 21, 2019 2:39 am

Hello everyone. I'm sure this question has been raised in this thread many times before. But I need to be 100% assured. This is because I've never flown into or out of SFO, let alone board a connecting flight there.

This November I'm flying from EWR to AKL with a layover at SFO. My domestic flight from EWR to SFO is with United, and my connecting international flight from SFO to AKL is with Air New Zealand.

According to the SFO airport map, all domestic UA flights fly into Concourse F, and Air New Zealand flies out of Concourse G. However, both concourses are located within T3.

From what I've researched, once I deplane my UA flight, I can simply walk from Concourse F to Concourse G for my Air New Zealand flight without having to go through security screening.

However, my layover at SFO is only 1 hour and 20 minutes.

Will I have enough time to get from F gates to the G gates for my outbound international flight?

Thanks everyone.

docbert Jun 21, 2019 8:56 am


Originally Posted by Jericho-79 (Post 31224946)
However, my layover at SFO is only 1 hour and 20 minutes.

Will I have enough time to get from F gates to the G gates for my outbound international flight?

Yes. Your inbound flight will land terminal 3 (concourse E or F, but they are connected) or possibly the International terminal (concourse G). Your outbound will leave from the International terminal (concourse G). All 3 of these concourses are connected air-side, and it will take you at most about 15 minutes to go from gate-to-gate - potentially less depending on the exact gates. Be sure NOT to exit the secure area, and just follow the signs.

Personally I probably wouldn't book an 80 minute connection for this, not because it's not doable in most cases, just because if your inbound is late you'll be spending an extra 24 hours in SF - but in most cases you'll make this connection without issue.

Boraxo Jun 21, 2019 9:46 pm

Concur. This should be an easy connection provided there are no significant ATC or weather delays at EWR or SFO. Better odds on morning flights than evening. They do tend to pad the scheduled times.

IMO the best course is to monitor the actual flight times for a week and see how they roll.

dhuey Jun 22, 2019 11:34 am

I’d book this 1hr20min connection. Of course there are no guarantees, but odds are good. The EWR flight will have priority over the shorter flights within the West Coast if there are delays. As mentioned above, be sure not to exit security. Follow the signs to International Terminal. Right after the Centurion Lounge you’ll see an airside hallway that takes you to International. Good luck.

Jericho-79 Jun 23, 2019 8:10 am

Thanks guys. According to a bunch of travel website that I've been using, the EWR-SFO-AKL route is WAY cheaper than the EWR-LAX-AKL route. The only difference is that the layover at LAX is well over 2 hours. Plus, in most of my travels, I've had not-so-great experiences every time I've flown through, into, or out of LAX.

So most of you Bay Area experts would recommend connecting at SFO, even though the layover time is less than 2 hours?

There's only a slim chance that my inbound EWR-SFO flight might be delayed?

docbert Jun 23, 2019 9:46 am


Originally Posted by Jericho-79 (Post 31231003)
There's only a slim chance that my inbound EWR-SFO flight might be delayed?

Presuming you're talking UA1584 from EWR-SFO connecting to Air NZ, then twice in the past 8 days you would missed your connection, and on a 3rd day you would have had 30 mins to make it.

Jericho-79 Jun 25, 2019 5:25 am


Originally Posted by docbert (Post 31231231)
Presuming you're talking UA1584 from EWR-SFO connecting to Air NZ, then twice in the past 8 days you would missed your connection, and on a 3rd day you would have had 30 mins to make it.

My apologies. But I don't understand what you mean by this.

Are those supposed to be statistics?

I've been eying the Air New Zealand website, and I don't see any UA flights with the flight number "1584" designated for the days on which I wish to travel.:confused:

TWA884 Jun 25, 2019 8:46 am


Originally Posted by Jericho-79 (Post 31237292)
I've been eying the Air New Zealand website, and I don't see any UA flights with the flight number "1584" designated for the days on which I wish to travel.:confused:

UA1584 is a flight on the current schedule which departs from EWR at 5:00pm and arrives at SFO at 8:24 pm.

Flight numbers sometimes change when schedules are published or updated.

To provide you with better advice, it would help to know the flight numbers and the approximate time of year that you wish to travel.

Zorak Jun 25, 2019 8:50 am


Originally Posted by Jericho-79 (Post 31237292)
My apologies. But I don't understand what you mean by this.

Are those supposed to be statistics?

I've been eying the Air New Zealand website, and I don't see any UA flights with the flight number "1584" designated for the days on which I wish to travel.:confused:

Air New Zealand don't fly between EWR and SFO. If they're selling you a flight on that route it's a codeshare operated by United. UA1584 in particular appears to (currently at least) have a codeshare of NZ9122.

dhuey Jun 25, 2019 12:32 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 31237899)
UA1584 is a flight on the current schedule which departs from EWR at 5:00pm and arrives at SFO at 8:24 pm.

Flight numbers sometimes change when schedules are published or updated.

To provide you with better advice, it would help to know the flight numbers and the approximate time of year that you wish to travel.

Among these reasons these details are important is that on some days United has a flight to Auckland that departs later in the evening than the NZ flight. If that's the case on the OP's travel date, it makes the connection less risky, as there's a decent chance of getting on the UA flight if the incoming EWR is badly delayed. Given the codeshare arrangement between UA and NZ, a switch to the UA flight might even happen automatically if there's a delay (UA and NZ frequent fliers might know if that happens).

Jericho-79 Jun 27, 2019 3:30 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 31237899)
To provide you with better advice, it would help to know the flight numbers and the approximate time of year that you wish to travel.

My plan is to depart from EWR for AKL on November 6. Most of the United flights on that date depart EWR during the mid-afternoon and arrive at SFO in the early evening.

As such, the connection times for outbound New Zealand flights that are currently being offered are approximately 90 minutes.


Originally Posted by Zorak (Post 31237912)
Air New Zealand don't fly between EWR and SFO. If they're selling you a flight on that route it's a codeshare operated by United. UA1584 in particular appears to (currently at least) have a codeshare of NZ9122.

I understand that fact. I'm looking exclusively at Air New Zealand's website, and not United's. On Air New Zealand's website, they're giving me flight UA flight numbers for the EWR-SFO trip and NZ flight numbers for the SFO-AKL trip.

docbert Jun 27, 2019 4:20 pm


Originally Posted by Jericho-79 (Post 31246663)
My plan is to depart from EWR for AKL on November 6.

That's after the daylight savings changes (which means that SFO-AKL flight leaves a few hours earlier), which is why the flight number I mentioned won't be one of the options.

The options I can see for EWR-SFO are UA583 which gives you 1h40m to connect, UA1978 which gives 2h29m, or UA2080 which gives 4h29m.

If it was me, I'd be taking the middle of those - UA1978. 2 1/2 hours is longer than needed in most cases, but gives a good buffer in case the inbound is late. That said, the shorter option would have you connecting without much issue the majority of the time - but over the past week that flight has been over an hour late twice. On both those occasions you would have still had 30-40 mins to connect which is very doable, but it's obviously cutting it tight.


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