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rjque Jun 2, 2011 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by LovetoTravel83 (Post 16493697)
I've actually now switched over to Nob Hill, It's 2 to 3 blocks north of Union Square.

Which blocks? Certain places are advertised as "Nob Hill" when they are really "tendernob" or worse. 2-3 blocks north of Union Square would probably be fine, as long as it is due north and not west at all. Plus, you'll get to ride the cable car to work!

dhuey Jun 2, 2011 6:31 pm


Originally Posted by rjque (Post 16493814)
Which blocks? Certain places are advertised as "Nob Hill" when they are really "tendernob" or worse. 2-3 blocks north of Union Square would probably be fine, as long as it is due north and not west at all. Plus, you'll get to ride the cable car to work!

I couldn't agree more. This is one of many examples where just a couple of blocks can make a huge difference.

LovetoTravel83 Jun 2, 2011 6:37 pm

It's between Pine and Bush street, On Powell Street.

rjque Jun 2, 2011 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by LovetoTravel83 (Post 16494265)
It's between Pine and Bush street, On Powell Street.

That's fine.

dhuey Jun 2, 2011 8:17 pm


Originally Posted by rjque (Post 16494698)
That's fine.

Yes, as long as the OP is okay with the noise and vibrations of the cable cars. I'd be fine with that.

flyingfkb Jun 3, 2011 1:00 pm


Originally Posted by LovetoTravel83 (Post 16468971)
I might get a car and it would be easy to get to the wharf using The Embarcadero correct?

By car. No way. You will be stuck in traffic. Having a car in San Francisco downtown areas (SOMA, Financial District, North Beach, Chinatown, Nob Hill, Russian Hill, Civic Center) is a very expansive thing especially if you have no space to park your car. Best way to get around the city is MUNI or by bike. If you life outside downtown like Richmond, Sunset, Haight, Mission it might be easier to own a car since you can either park on the street or the properties have parking space.


Originally Posted by rjque (Post 16493814)
Wwhen they are really "tendernob" or worse. 2-3 blocks north of Union Square would probably be fine, as long as it is due north and not west at all. Plus, you'll get to ride the cable car to work!

Hey, nothing against beautiful Tendernob ;-) . I life there (Sutter and Leavenworth) and like it very much.

rjque Jun 3, 2011 2:22 pm


Originally Posted by caspritz78 (Post 16498427)
By car. No way. You will be stuck in traffic. Having a car in San Francisco downtown areas (SOMA, Financial District, North Beach, Chinatown, Nob Hill, Russian Hill, Civic Center) is a very expansive thing especially if you have no space to park your car. Best way to get around the city is MUNI or by bike. If you life outside downtown like Richmond, Sunset, Haight, Mission it might be easier to own a car since you can either park on the street or the properties have parking space.

Totally disagree with that - Embarcadero is usually pretty easy by car, and Muni is simply not reliable enough to live a car free life. I sometimes work in the financial district and I always drive to work since Muni is so bad. Traffic is usually not bad at all unless I'm trying to get on the Bay Bridge.

dhuey Jun 3, 2011 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by caspritz78 (Post 16498427)
By car. No way. You will be stuck in traffic. Having a car in San Francisco downtown areas (SOMA, Financial District, North Beach, Chinatown, Nob Hill, Russian Hill, Civic Center) is a very expansive thing especially if you have no space to park your car. Best way to get around the city is MUNI or by bike. If you life outside downtown like Richmond, Sunset, Haight, Mission it might be easier to own a car since you can either park on the street or the properties have parking space.

You're about 60% correct with this. Traffic would not be a problem in the short distance between home and work for the OP. Even in heavy traffic, this is a 10 minute drive. Parking, however, is indeed a big deal. Street parking is very difficult to find in both places. I would do it only if I had a parking spot in both my apartment and at work.

Riding a bike to/work is a great idea, as is making it a long walk. Muni's potential vastly exceeds its reality.

squeakr Jun 5, 2011 10:27 pm

its not the driving, its the parking
 
that makes the commute by car a problem.

flyingfkb Jun 6, 2011 6:29 pm


Originally Posted by rjque (Post 16498860)
Muni is simply not reliable enough to live a car free life.

I use MUNI almost every day and so far I had no major problems and I also don't own a car. For short trips there is Zipcar or the city car share and for longer weekend trips rental cars are not too expansive either.

dhuey Jun 6, 2011 6:35 pm


Originally Posted by caspritz78 (Post 16515690)
I use MUNI almost every day and so far I had no major problems and I also don't own a car.

Muni is hit and miss, with too much miss. I was amazed how long it took for the N Judah to go from the Haight to downtown (a mere four miles). It seemed like the train wanted to park on Church Street for at least five minutes. Some routes are surely better.

rjque Jun 6, 2011 11:06 pm


Originally Posted by caspritz78 (Post 16515690)
I use MUNI almost every day and so far I had no major problems and I also don't own a car. For short trips there is Zipcar or the city car share and for longer weekend trips rental cars are not too expansive either.

Muni is unacceptably unreliable for my purposes. I have repeatedly tried to give it a chance, and have always given up in favor of driving. When I lived in the Sunset, there were many days when I either wouldn't make it to school, or had no way of getting home. I then started working, and moved to the Castro, which is a 12 minute ride downtown that took more than 40 minutes at least two days a week. At least once a month the entire system would be down and I would have to fight with hundreds of people for a cab at the corner of market and Castro. That kind of unreliability simply doesn't work for me.

dhuey Jun 6, 2011 11:14 pm


Originally Posted by rjque (Post 16516791)
When I lived in the Sunset, there were many days when I either wouldn't make it to school, or had no way of getting home.

After I ran Bay to Breakers last year, I walked over to the western most stop on the N Judah at Ocean Beach. I'm not exaggerating when I say it took that train longer to go back to Embarcadero station than the 51 minutes it took me to run that 7.5-mile distance in the other direction. Muni is generally awful.

LovetoTravel83 Jun 7, 2011 10:26 am

Ok, after a week in SF I came to realize that MUNI is the bus system correct?

malsf1 Jun 7, 2011 4:03 pm


Originally Posted by LovetoTravel83 (Post 16519214)
Ok, after a week in SF I came to realize that MUNI is the bus system correct?

Yes, MUNI is the bus, streetcar, and subway system within the city limits. BART operates within the city but also to the east bay and peninsula.


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