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mileagerunner Mar 27, 2003 10:09 am

If I transfer into Hilton, is it possible to transfer to someone else's account?

Rut Dog Mar 27, 2003 10:21 am

TheWaitress, you da bomb. Now that's what I call adding value to the discussion.

Would it be possible to post a list sorted by cents/pt?

I agree there are strictly better values than HHonors, but there are few redemption options reported to work so quickly. People have posted recently waiting months for gift certificates.

The reason I transferred to HHonors is because I know they will post on Thursday night and because I know the HHonors program intimately, so I am confident I can maximize the value per point.

I had been hoping to redeem a UA certificate, perhaps in conjunction with a UA HHonors companion certificate, but I'm not betting on UA at the moment.

[This message has been edited by Rut Dog (edited 03-27-2003).]

Rut Dog Mar 27, 2003 10:33 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Rut Dog:
Would it be possible to post a list sorted by cents/pt?</font>
Self-help answer below.

I'd like to hear people's redemption experience with the high value awards, specifically how long does it take for them to arrive?

Also, isn't it odd that the higher net value UA awards have a lower per point value?
Code:

Company                Points        $ value        cents/pt
United Airlines        1250        25        2.00
Omaha Steaks        2250        30        1.33
United Airlines        3750        50        1.33
United Airlines        5750        75        1.30
macy's                5250        50        0.95
Giftcertificates.ca        2675        25        0.93
B Dalton                2750        25        0.91
Barnes & Noble        2750        25        0.91
macy's                2750        25        0.91
Marriott                11250        100        0.89
Service Master        11250        100        0.89
Sharper Image        11250        100        0.89
Marriott                8500        75        0.88
Uni. Snowboard        8000        70        0.88
Bass Pro shops        5750        50        0.87
Bloomingdales        5750        50        0.87
Marriott                5750        50        0.87
Service Master        5750        50        0.87
Sharper Image        5750        50        0.87
Spiegal                5750        50        0.87
Stuart Andersons        5750        50        0.87
AMC                3000        25        0.83
Applebees                3000        25        0.83
Bass Pro shops        3000        25        0.83
Bath/Body Works        3000        25        0.83
Bloomingdales        3000        25        0.83
Eddie Bauer        12000        100        0.83
Macaroni Grill        3000        25        0.83
Marriott                3000        25        0.83
Media Play        3000        25        0.83
Service Master        3000        25        0.83
SpaWish                12000        100        0.83
Spiegal                3000        25        0.83
Stuart Andersons        3000        25        0.83
Uni. Amusement        6000        50        0.83
Applebees                2500        20        0.80
B Dalton                1250        10        0.80
Barnes & Noble        1250        10        0.80
Hyatt                9500        75        0.79
Circuit City        6500        50        0.77
Dick's Sports        6500        50        0.77
Eddie Bauer        6500        50        0.77
FogDog                6500        50        0.77
Home Depot        6500        50        0.77
Hyatt                6500        50        0.77
JC Penney                6500        50        0.77
Kmart                6500        50        0.77
Orvis                6500        50        0.77
Rainforest Café        3250        25        0.77
REI                3250        25        0.77
SpaWish                6500        50        0.77
Blockbuster        2000        15        0.75
R' Us                2650        20        0.75
Starbucks                1350        10        0.74
Tower Records        1350        10        0.74
Applebees                1400        10        0.71
Bass Pro shops        1400        10        0.71
Bath/Body Works        1400        10        0.71
Blockbuster        1400        10        0.71
Chili's                1400        10        0.71
Circuit City        3500        25        0.71
Dave & Busters        3500        25        0.71
Dick's Sports        1400        10        0.71
Eddie Bauer        3500        25        0.71
FogDog                3500        25        0.71
FogDog                1400        10        0.71
Foot Locker        3500        25        0.71
Gas card                1400        10        0.71
Home Depot        3500        25        0.71
Hyatt                3500        25        0.71
JC Penney                3500        25        0.71
Kmart                3500        25        0.71
Macaroni Grill        1400        10        0.71
Media Play        1400        10        0.71
Olive Garden        1400        10        0.71
On the Border        1400        10        0.71
Orvis                3500        25        0.71
Oshmans                3500        25        0.71
REI                1400        10        0.71
Sharper Image        3500        25        0.71
Sharper Image        1400        10        0.71
SpaWish                3500        25        0.71
Spiegal                1400        10        0.71
Sprotmart                3500        25        0.71
Stu. Andersons        1400        10        0.71
Walmart                1400        10        0.71
WebCert                3500        25        0.71
Applebees                750        5        0.67
B Dalton                750        5        0.67
Barnes & Noble        750        5        0.67
Blockbuster        750        5        0.67
Boston Market        1500        10        0.67
Foot Locker        1500        10        0.67
Hollywood Video        750        5        0.67
Home Depot        1500        10        0.67
JC Penney                1500        10        0.67
Kmart                1500        10        0.67
Media Play        750        5        0.67
Mrs Fields        750        5        0.67
R' Us                1500        10        0.67
SpaWish                1500        10        0.67
Sprots Authority        1500        10        0.67
Target                1500        10        0.67
WebCert                1500        10        0.67
Burger King        800        5        0.63
Kmart                800        5        0.63
Olive Garden        800        5        0.63
R' Us                800        5        0.63
Starbucks                800        5        0.63
Universal Ski        8000        35        0.44

TheWaitress, could you please send me an e-mail (from the link in my post header)? Thanks.

[This message has been edited by Rut Dog (edited 03-27-2003).]

ABQ Jon Mar 27, 2003 11:14 am

Hilton isn't retail but if you like HHonors points, they come out pretty well using this formula (at least, if you would otherwise be buying points). Using their $12.50/1000 purchase points offer, it works out to 1.25 cents/point.

DreamCowboy Mar 27, 2003 11:45 am

I agree with ABQJon. I did an evaluation long ago as to the best location to apply MyPoints points. Since I value my HHonors points at a minimum 1 cent/pt, the only awards that fall above this line is Omaha Steaks and United. However, for United, you can only apply one certificate per ticket and it doesn't make much of a dent in the price. For Omaha Steaks, the voucher is not good on sales items. Since non-sale items are grossly overpriced, I don't feel this isn't a good use.

Since I frequently acquire HHonors points from other sources and redeem frequently (usually at least 2 weeks of vacations per year), I get value from them. For those who don't accumulate HHonors points quickly, I would suggest staying with Macy's/B-Dalton or one of the restaurant redemptions

TravelLover Mar 27, 2003 1:03 pm

Rut Dog -

Your chart is very interesting. It might be interesting to add some of the VacationMiles awards to the mix. They aren't nearly as good as they used to be (several times I cashed in 20k points for ten $50 discounts at Marriott/Hyatt). Also isn't the giftcertifcates.ca award in Canadian dollars?

ABQ Jon -

I used to value Hilton points at .67 per point but that was before this year's devaluation, especially of the elite awards. I think the "use value" of the points (rather than the purchase price) is now between .50 and .60 per point.

Also, I sometimes cash in points for Marriott Rewards points. Even though the trade value is lousy (1750 MyPoints for 1000 Marriott Rewards points), MR points are generally hard to get and the upper-level rewards are pretty good.

UserMark Mar 27, 2003 1:31 pm

What Hilton awards do you redeem for that would give you a value of 1c/point? I have redeemend 85k points for an AA domestic ticket and 20k points for a room that would cost $100, but neither of these comes close to 1c/point.

hsi.chang Mar 27, 2003 1:45 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by UserMark:
What Hilton awards do you redeem for that would give you a value of 1c/point? I have redeemend 85k points for an AA domestic ticket and 20k points for a room that would cost $100, but neither of these comes close to 1c/point.</font>
The reason I personally value HH points @ 1c/point is because I value airlines (CO, AA) FF points @ 2c / point, and 1 FF = 2 HH.

If you check biddingfortravel.com, the lowest HWV can be had is around $130 / night. ALON @ 6 nights would equate a value of about $780 (Before taxes and Priceline fees), this would value the 100K HH points it takes to redeem at 0.78c / point.


Xyzzy Mar 27, 2003 2:09 pm

...But that same ALON can also be used at fancier hotels that charge more. The answer to value is highly dependent on exactly what kind of award you redeem points for and at what hotel. We recently used 21000 points for 4 days at a Scandic hotel. They wanted the US equivalent of about $150 for the room. Perhaps I could have gotten it for less via some kind of deal, but how much less, I don't know. Even at $75/night my value for 21000 points is still 1.42c/point.

On our trip we used 87000 points for 13 room nights (the above rate was so good we took two rooms for four nights!). That's a lot less than our initial thought of 100000 using GLON awards for 6 of the 9 nights plus additional awards for the additional three nights.

ChaseTheMiles Mar 27, 2003 2:29 pm

Is there any limitation to the Macy's gift certificate, such as having to use it on regularly-price merchandise?

Kremmen Mar 27, 2003 3:18 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ChaseTheMiles:
DO any of these merchants give you money back when you don't spend up to the GC amount?</font>
Circuit City did when I used one recently. They also tend to have rebate items. I bought a $19 item with a $15 mail-in rebate and got the $4+ change from my $25 card in cash. Roughly, that's $4 for product, over $1 in tax and almost $20 in cash.

Unfortunately, most of the "high" value items aren't, to me. Yes, I could go for Marriott. ... And use them to pay for, say, a meal that costs $50 but is only worth $30 at an equivalent restaurant. Similar with Macy's, etc, where it's not good value to get a $50 voucher than will only buy $40 worth of merchandise somewhere else.

TheWaitress Mar 27, 2003 3:22 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ChaseTheMiles:
Is there any limitation to the Macy's gift certificate, such as having to use it on regularly-price merchandise?</font>
No limitations. You get a plastic debit card that you use just like cash at the register. I bought some new shoes that just happened to be on sale also with my last one.

The card also says it can be used online at macys.com

[This message has been edited by TheWaitress (edited 03-27-2003).]

ChaseTheMiles Mar 27, 2003 3:38 pm

Thanks for the replies. I think I'm leaning towards Macy, even though Hilton is a good value. I need some new clothes.

Faye Mar 27, 2003 8:02 pm

I got my Macy card in less than a week. I called the 800 number and ask about the card's expiration date. It seems to go by states. For my state, there was no expiration.

lynowens Dec 4, 2003 4:55 pm

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