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roman.observer Jul 8, 2009 11:13 am

Oleary king of advertizing
 
dont you think that it may just be a strategy to make people talk about his firm ?
he's really good in that.

yeah it came from Spring Airlines
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,2751359.story

rb.sr Jul 8, 2009 11:23 am

not gonna happen
 
from WSJ:

The problem with all of this is physics. Airplane seats–whatever shape they may be–and the passengers in them have to withstand significant forces to be certified as airworthy. That means they must stay intact against 16 g’s of force, so that the people strapped in have a chance to survive a crash.

Good luck with a bar stool. You’d have to be wearing a heck of a harness bolted to a bar stool, and the stool itself, with one leg instead of four, would have to be darn strong. Engineers out there can debate whether it’s possible, but Airbus said a few years ago there was no way.

In addition, airplanes are certified for a maximum number of passengers, based largely on the ability to get everyone out quickly through emergency exits. Low-cost carriers in Europe and Asia typically toe those limits already. You can’t significantly change the seating density without adding more emergency exits.

In fact, the maximum number of passengers allowed on the Boeing 737-800, the plane Ryanair flies, is 189. Ryanair’s seating on its 737-800s: 189. Mr. O’Leary can’t add more people.

http://blogs.wsj.com/middleseat/2009...?mod=lifestyle

oontiveros Jul 8, 2009 12:20 pm

huh...
 

Originally Posted by rb.sr (Post 12032512)
from WSJ:

The problem with all of this is physics. Airplane seats–whatever shape they may be–and the passengers in them have to withstand significant forces to be certified as airworthy. That means they must stay intact against 16 g’s of force, so that the people strapped in have a chance to survive a crash.

Good luck with a bar stool. You’d have to be wearing a heck of a harness bolted to a bar stool, and the stool itself, with one leg instead of four, would have to be darn strong. Engineers out there can debate whether it’s possible, but Airbus said a few years ago there was no way.

In addition, airplanes are certified for a maximum number of passengers, based largely on the ability to get everyone out quickly through emergency exits. Low-cost carriers in Europe and Asia typically toe those limits already. You can’t significantly change the seating density without adding more emergency exits.

In fact, the maximum number of passengers allowed on the Boeing 737-800, the plane Ryanair flies, is 189. Ryanair’s seating on its 737-800s: 189. Mr. O’Leary can’t add more people.

http://blogs.wsj.com/middleseat/2009...?mod=lifestyle


But this article on Spring Airlines in China said that Airbus has been pitching this quietly to Asian carriers for a few years...

http://www.cctv.com/program/bizchina...6/108082.shtml

"The upright seating jet could accommodate 40 percent more passengers, compared with traditional plane. It could also help airlines cut 20 percent costs, while lowering airfares for consumers.

Zhang Wuan, Spring Airlines said "It's just like bar stools. The the safety belt is the the most important thing. It will still be fastened around the waist."

Airbus has been quitely pitching the standing-room-only seating option to Asian carriers for a few years. The Chinese aviation regulator requires that passengers are secured to their seats for take-off and landing.

Some industry insiders believe the standing seat configuration still needs further regulatory examination before becomes a reality."

EmailKid Jul 8, 2009 1:40 pm

I'm joining the two standing while flying threads into one.

EmailKid
Budget Travel moderator

CityRules Jul 9, 2009 12:24 am

Standing to be introduced on Ryanair?
 
It already is. Take a look at the length of time people are standing whilst on the ground. Especially true now: as you go through the gate you are left standing for another 10-15 mins (if lucky) on the stairs.


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