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eireman Apr 13, 2007 12:04 am

RyanAir to fly Transatlantic in 08!
 
It is reported On ATWonline and Bloomberg news that Ryanair are very seriously looking at starting Ta service in 08 upon start up of the iopen skies.

Flights to be to secondary airports.

Flights to run independant of the Euro operation, but would seek to connect with the Euro flights.

Some premium seating to be offered on either 787 or A350 ( model to be decided)

So what secondary airports in USA would be considered bearing in mind that runway length and immigration facilities would be needed.

I guess LA could be covered by ONT

Interesting to see if this comes to fruition or if this is in some way just another move by O"leary to get EI

number_6 Apr 13, 2007 1:29 am

There are a dozen secondary airports in the US which are desperate for this kind of a deal and probably would agree to Ryanair's terms (rebate of the PFC, etc.). At NYC there is SWF (Newburgh Stewart, about 50 miles up the Hudson valley from NYC -- an ex-B52 bomber base so it has runways that go to the horizon, longer than JFK). A more traditional choice is MHT (Manchester NH, near Boston). Both can draw on lots of O/D traffic to Ireland, not needing feed.

brettyokom Apr 13, 2007 2:09 am


Originally Posted by eireman (Post 7574381)
Some premium seating to be offered on either 787 or A350 ( model to be decided)

But isn't the 787 production line sold out until 2013 and the A350 still in the design phase with first flight scheduled for 2010? If the article actually quoted these models with no regard to actually ordering and receiving them by 2008, then it is clearly not a very reliable source.

chrissxb Apr 13, 2007 2:17 am


Originally Posted by eireman (Post 7574381)
So what secondary airports in USA would be considered bearing in mind that runway length and immigration facilities would be needed.

Bangor comes to my mind. Even re-routed aircrafts would still be on schedule - making operations cheaper for Ryanair :rolleyes:

SmilingBoy Apr 13, 2007 9:06 am


Originally Posted by eireman (Post 7574381)
Some premium seating to be offered on either 787 or A350 ( model to be decided)

Couldn't they do it on a 737-800 - I think the range may just be enough for an Ireland-North East US trip.

(I'm not serious - but it is something Ryanair looked into for sure!)

SmilingBoy.

apx068 Apr 20, 2007 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by SmilingBoy (Post 7575861)
Couldn't they do it on a 737-800 - I think the range may just be enough for an Ireland-North East US trip.

(I'm not serious - but it is something Ryanair looked into for sure!)

SmilingBoy.

Hmmm. The range (acording to the Boeing website) of a 737-800 is 3050nm. That puts quite a lot of the far north-east of the US & Canada in range from Dublin or Shannon.

As for a single aisle smallish jet over the Atlantic, it already exists. I don't mean the rather nice Privatair flights; Air Canada fly an A319 ST Johns <--> London three days per week now.

Oh, what fun it'll be!
Jason

spotwelder Apr 20, 2007 2:14 pm

With respect to the 737-800s that are operated by Ryanair at the moment, please bear in mind that you might be quoting the "still air-range" which does not take into account the likely jetstream influence for the westbound Atlantic flights.

The -700 series can be used for transatlantic with business configurations as it is signficantly lighter than the 800. You are trading the total of pax weight, baggage, cargo and fuel for range.

The atlantic is also more limited than many routes in your ability to get the right cruising altitude, thereby impeding range even more.

You can do it in both aircraft, but a seven euros plus tax, you are not going to be making money.

You never know, it might just be MO'L making noise in an attempt to worry the shareholders and management of the majors.

Spottie
(one of the few holders of the Ryanair FF card on here, and no, I do not need any more bloody free Ryanair flights thank you!)

dvs7310 Apr 29, 2007 1:09 am


Originally Posted by number_6 (Post 7574554)
There are a dozen secondary airports in the US which are desperate for this kind of a deal and probably would agree to Ryanair's terms (rebate of the PFC, etc.). At NYC there is SWF (Newburgh Stewart, about 50 miles up the Hudson valley from NYC -- an ex-B52 bomber base so it has runways that go to the horizon, longer than JFK). A more traditional choice is MHT (Manchester NH, near Boston). Both can draw on lots of O/D traffic to Ireland, not needing feed.

Does it actually have the customs and immigration facilities to take flights from Europe?


Originally Posted by apx068 (Post 7614212)
Hmmm. The range (acording to the Boeing website) of a 737-800 is 3050nm. That puts quite a lot of the far north-east of the US & Canada in range from Dublin or Shannon.

As for a single aisle smallish jet over the Atlantic, it already exists. I don't mean the rather nice Privatair flights; Air Canada fly an A319 ST Johns <--> London three days per week now.

Oh, what fun it'll be!
Jason

There is also a small all bus. class airline operating a 319 from MXP-JFK... MiMa or something like that.

Snico50 May 2, 2007 4:01 pm

Ryan Air luggage requirements
 
we are flying from london stanstead into Rome. I have read that the luggage requirements are 33 lbs unless you get to the airport 2 hours early then you can slide through with 40 lbs...Any truth to that?

IceTrojan May 2, 2007 4:02 pm

Ugh... no thanks.

Aviatrix May 2, 2007 4:56 pm


Originally Posted by Snico50 (Post 7677537)
we are flying from london stanstead into Rome. I have read that the luggage requirements are 33 lbs unless you get to the airport 2 hours early then you can slide through with 40 lbs...Any truth to that?

Baggage allowance is 15 kg - you don't get anything extra for going early. (Who told you that nonsense?)

And even that 15 kg isn't free. You get 15 kg for a small fee, anything above 15 kg you pay per kilo and it costs and arm and a leg.

irishguy28 Apr 19, 2013 4:28 am

Ryanair transatlantic plan 'still four or five years away'
 
O’Leary says plan still speculative though there have been talks with US airports



Originally Posted by The Irish Times
Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary said that any plan to start a transatlantic service is four to five years away.

Speaking to reporters in Dublin, he said the plan is still speculative though there have been talks with airports about starting such a service.

Mr O’Leary said any plan depends on getting getting planes at the right price.


oliver2002 Apr 19, 2013 5:03 am

He probably means DUB-KEF, (or some obscure airfield that pays them 1000$ each time a FR plane lands)

http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gclookup?...A+within:100mi

Speaking of which, DUB-ALC is probably TATL too ;)

irishguy28 Apr 20, 2013 10:04 am

No - it means North America.

Flying over any part of the Atlantic (let alone crossing it - which is what transatlantic means) to get there would be a huge detour!

In the meantime, Ryanair has lost the initiative to Norwegian who commence TATL services this year.

AA_EXP09 Apr 20, 2013 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by dvs7310 (Post 7657024)
Does it actually have the customs and immigration facilities to take flights from Europe?



There is also a small all bus. class airline operating a 319 from MXP-JFK... MiMa or something like that.

There's always the option to either build said facilities or to detour via Canada (YHZ/YMQ/YOW would add very little distance)


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