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Raynz May 30, 2013 3:44 pm

RyanAir EU Compensation for Delay
 
Hi Guys,

Flew RyanAir (against my instincts) and ended up with a 4 hour 45minute delay from Pisa to Stansted. Initially the reason given was "Operational" and then on the plane, they said the original plane had a fault, and they had to fly a new plane in.

As an aside, there was nobody from (or working for) RyanAir present until 20 minutes before the (twice) rescheduled time, and we only got meal vouchers (€5/person) if we went out through security (which we only heard about from other passengers). But that's all to be expected really.

What are my chances of claiming the €250/person compensation for delays over 3 hours? I've sent them a template letter with copies of the boarding pass, and their own delay confirmation letter. I assuming they're going to write back (if they get back to me at all) with an 'exceptional circumstances' excuse. What's my next step? Contact the CAA? Small Claims Court?

Has anyone ever successfully claimed with RyanAir?

Centipede100 May 31, 2013 1:05 am

Ryanair make it very difficult to claim against but not impossible. Have a look at blondmark's posts in this thread as a way of combatting the airline's intransigence: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...9&postcount=50

Alex71 Jun 4, 2013 4:38 am

There are agencies that specialize in claiming the compensation from airlines on behalf of passengers. I believe they charge a 30% commission, but it might still be worth using them.

Raynz Jun 5, 2013 6:17 am

An update:

Of course they rejected my claim. The important parts:


We sincerely regret the delay to your flight FR583 from Pisa to London Stansted on the 12/05/2013, which was due to an unexpected safety/technical problem with the aircraft due to operate your flight.

It was necessary to delay the departure of this flight until the fault was rectified and the aircraft was cleared for operation by our Engineering Department.

Ryanair is committed to provide on time services for all passengers and is Europe's No. 1 on time airline.

Occasionally, there are situations which are outside our control such as technical faults that disrupts our flights.
..... Blah blah, provided refreshments, etc.


As this delay was outside Ryanair's control (Extraordinary Circumstances), we regret to advise that no compensation is due under EU261.
So next steps will be to write back citing the cases where it was ruled that technical problems are not 'Extraordinary Circumstances'. After that I'm not sure. Dealing with the Italian authority seems to be a lost cause from what I've heard. Maybe it's then time to go with a no-win, no-fee agency and see what they can do.

Alex71 Jun 6, 2013 12:09 am

Try this: http://www.flightright.de/en

They also have a calculator that heps assess the chances of your claim.

Erico1875 Jun 7, 2013 8:19 am

If you pursue this you will win. Ryanair can call it what the want but aircraft fault is not a a get out.
However, if you do win, they may appeal. All designed to grind you down.
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...3&postcount=41

Centipede100 Jun 10, 2013 1:49 am


Originally Posted by Erico1875 (Post 20881889)
If you pursue this you will win.

Whilst you may have a valid claim there are no guarantees of success in the small claims track.

Raynz Jun 10, 2013 2:01 am

Thanks everyone. I think I will have to take it to an agency, since I don't have to time to deal with this myself. So some sort of fire & forget, no win, no pay agency that's willing to take it to small claims would be best. Will look into the options, and report my progress.

Bassington Jun 10, 2013 3:53 am

I had a similar problem with a BA flight between France and the UK. Tbh the compensation I was due wasn't even that much, but the attitude of the staff made me determined to claim.

I tried small claims, but it wound up being such a pain that in the end I took the whole thing to one of the claims management websites (Sky Mediator - I think it's a French company). It took a few months, but I got my money.

Raynz Jun 17, 2013 4:53 am

I made a claim with FlightRight.de. Will let you know how it works out.

I really think that if you have to take an airline to court to get your compensation, the court should include extra penalties against the airlines. As it is, RyanAir will just deny every claim, and if they have to pay a few in court, then they still come out way ahead.

So either the courts should add punitive damages, or the CAA should fine RyanAir for abusing the system.

sogboa Aug 8, 2013 2:55 pm

hi Raynz

I had the misfortune of being on the same delayed flight from PSA to STN. Did you have any joy in your claim?

Raynz Aug 8, 2013 4:00 pm

Not yet. RyanAir rejected flightright's claim, and in addition said they would communicate with and pay any compensation (which is 0) to only me. Flightright is reviewing to see the next step.

mohmohcha Aug 26, 2013 1:24 am


Originally Posted by Raynz (Post 21239205)
Not yet. RyanAir rejected flightright's claim, and in addition said they would communicate with and pay any compensation (which is 0) to only me. Flightright is reviewing to see the next step.

You sure Flightright is no win no fee? I found this on their FAQ.
"Furthermore, flightright may charge in addition to the contingency fee a small service fee. This service fee will be deducted from the collected amount. Only in case we are not successful, we will ask you to pay the service fee directly to us (but not the contingency fee). If our efforts to enforce your claim should not be successful there will be no further costs (except maybe for the above mentioned service fee)."

And they will charge you quite badly if you terminate the claim.

sogboa Jun 2, 2014 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by Raynz (Post 21239205)
Not yet. RyanAir rejected flightright's claim, and in addition said they would communicate with and pay any compensation (which is 0) to only me. Flightright is reviewing to see the next step.


Raynz - Did you get a response from Ryanair in the end?

Raynz Jun 2, 2014 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by sogboa (Post 22966623)
Raynz - Did you get a response from Ryanair in the end?

Nope, still on-going. Case has been passed to lawyers who have filed a claim.

Ryanair keep throwing stalling tactics. Copies of documents etc.


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