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A Russian Metrojet (rebranded in 2012 from Kogalymavia and known as KolAvia) Airbus Industrie A321 EI-ETJ departing Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt, at 05:58 local time (03:58 GMT) Saturday, 31 Oct 2015 went down 22 minutes later in the Sinai desert en route to Pulkovo airport in St. Petersburg. 217 passengers and 7 crew have been lost. A Russian commission is on its way; the "black box" has been recovered.Bodies are being recovered by the Egyptian authorities.
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Aviation Herald article on 7K 9268 (maps, photos)
BBC (updated) article on 7K 9268
Aviation Safety.net incident summary (link to IAE list of incidents involving same engine). (c/o TheTakeOffRush)
Impact on BA operations is being discussed here.
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Metrojet 7K 9268 (RU) SSH-LED crashes in Sinai, EG (31 Oct 2015)
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PlaneSpotters lists the engines as IAE ones. Doesn't that get Pratt & Whitney, and potentially their regulators, there?
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Good question. Can't see NTSB having to send a team to do primary assistance (though I expect they'll require the report and follow-up on the P&W angle secondarily), though of course US Secretary of State did offer any US assistance.
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PlaneSpotters lists the engines as IAE ones. Doesn't that get Pratt & Whitney, and potentially their regulators, there?
Nov 1, 2015, 4:39 pm
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You left out Germany, when it has a right to be in just as France does.
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I think we're agreeing that P+W won't get invited directly. Presumably IAE will, and I'm not sure who they then send to support the investigation if IAE is more of a business arrangement than an engineering organisation. Do previous incidents provide insight?
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Egypt and Russia have appeared to back away from their assertions that a Russian passenger jet crashed in the Sinai desert because of a technical fault, as it was revealed on Sunday that the plane broke up in the air and officials conceded the aircraft could had been brought down by a bomb on board.
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Awful news and my condolences to all those that were affected and to those brave souls on board.
I had heard media speculating (and almost everything is speculation at this early stage) that they could not have ruled out internal security at the Sharm El Sheikh airport while the plane was mid turn. Although this theory has been pretty quiet lately. I do hope that's not the case.
I had heard media speculating (and almost everything is speculation at this early stage) that they could not have ruled out internal security at the Sharm El Sheikh airport while the plane was mid turn. Although this theory has been pretty quiet lately. I do hope that's not the case.
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USA involved as the engine was built in the USA according to the BBC. Not sure how relevant the engines will be to this investigation as all the available information I have seen at this point doesn't appear to point towards the engines.
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Analysis by BBC Monitoring found that a video purporting to show the downing of a plane did not appear to be an official IS clip, and was not shared on official IS channels.
Not clear if the Sinai branch of IS normally uses those channels though.
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France not Germany as the Aircraft was built in France
USA involved as the engine was built in the USA according to the BBC. Not sure how relevant the engines will be to this investigation as all the available information I have seen at this point doesn't appear to point towards the engines.
USA involved as the engine was built in the USA according to the BBC. Not sure how relevant the engines will be to this investigation as all the available information I have seen at this point doesn't appear to point towards the engines.
"The agency said its team would be joined by two investigators from its German counterpart, the BFU, because the aircraft was manufactured in Germany, and four from its Russian counterpart, the MAK, because the plane was operated by a Russian company. They will join emergency services and aviation specialists already at the crash site, which is spread over more than 5.8 sq miles."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...h-russia-sinai
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Would this source will be credible? airline executives ruling out mechanical failure...
http://news.yahoo.com/first-bodies-r...62834776.html#
http://news.yahoo.com/first-bodies-r...62834776.html#
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Would this source will be credible? airline executives ruling out mechanical failure...
http://news.yahoo.com/first-bodies-r...62834776.html#
http://news.yahoo.com/first-bodies-r...62834776.html#
"Russian officials announced Saturday that they had opened an investigation into potential safety violations by the airline. The Investigative Committee launched an immediate search of the airline’s offices in Moscow and its facilities at Domodedovo International Airport, southwest of the capital."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...2a7_story.html
Nov 2, 2015, 5:21 am
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The Russian airline Kogalymavia has blamed
BBC
I can't see that this is anything but speculation at this time unless they have been given additional information which has not been made public. It does though sound like they are hinting at a bomb.
"external influence" for Saturday's Sinai plane crash which killed 224 people.
A senior airline official said: "The only reasonable explanation is that it was [due to] external influence."
A senior airline official said: "The only reasonable explanation is that it was [due to] external influence."
I can't see that this is anything but speculation at this time unless they have been given additional information which has not been made public. It does though sound like they are hinting at a bomb.
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The Russian airline Kogalymavia has blamed
BBC
I can't see that this is anything but speculation at this time unless they have been given additional information which has not been made public. It does though sound like they are hinting at a bomb.
BBC
I can't see that this is anything but speculation at this time unless they have been given additional information which has not been made public. It does though sound like they are hinting at a bomb.
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The Russian airline Kogalymavia has blamed
BBC
It does though sound like they are hinting at a bomb.
BBC
It does though sound like they are hinting at a bomb.