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heramato Nov 15, 2010 8:35 pm

Il-86
 
Hi guys... Im wondering if Im able to get on a Il-86 I will love to. Are those birds still coming to BCN?
Cheers!

more4less Nov 15, 2010 9:47 pm


Originally Posted by heramato (Post 15150622)
Hi guys... Im wondering if Im able to get on a Il-86 I will love to. Are those birds still coming to BCN?
Cheers!

Hi heramato,

I have not seen these planes in Barcelona for a while, but it might have just been a coincidence.

I flew in an Illyushin from Barcelona to Prague(or Paris to Prague, cannot remember exactly) back in 1993 or 1994. I am not sure if I would like to repeat the experience. :rolleyes:

oliver2002 Nov 16, 2010 1:00 am

It seems they ferry russian tourists to AYT and ADB:

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...sc&thumbnails=

chalf Nov 16, 2010 6:43 pm

I suspect that EU noise regulations may have done in the Il86 on most routes, with high fuel prices contributing to its demise. At SVO and DME there are very few visible that appear to used with any regularity, and even at VKO my sense is that they are not heavily used for regular routes.

KIXJNB Nov 20, 2010 1:20 am

I saw lots of Russian(-built) aircraft at AYT when I went there with my family. Just wonder how you would get onboard, as these are supposedly Russian holiday charters...
You may well end up somewhere in Krasnoyarsk...

whiskey_sk Nov 24, 2010 5:23 am

How about Il-96? Cubana has got some reasonable offers from London or Paris to Habana currently.

Grace B Dec 18, 2010 2:59 am


Originally Posted by whiskey_sk (Post 15266051)
How about Il-96? Cubana has got some reasonable offers from London or Paris to Habana currently.

Great plane, pity about the reliability.

luitje Dec 20, 2010 10:20 am


Originally Posted by Grace B (Post 15473315)
Great plane, pity about the reliability.

Huh? Are you implying it is unreliable. Well, if my memory serves me well there;s been no accidents with Il9 and only one with fatalities with Il8. 16 fatalities for 130 planes being used quite extensively in the former USSR and in Russia - I would be damned if this is a bad record.
I understand SU only flies this planes to the Russian Far East now (UUS, KHV and PKC). So unless you plan on exploring Siberia, there's very little chance of flying this metal. They used to fly it to HAV, but no longer do (this destination is now served by A330).

openflync Dec 20, 2010 7:24 pm


Originally Posted by saviox (Post 15151499)
I flew in an Illyushin from Barcelona to Prague(or Paris to Prague, cannot remember exactly) back in 1993 or 1994. I am not sure if I would like to repeat the experience. :rolleyes:

Having flown TATL on the Il62 in the early 90's, I would not want to repeat that experience as well.

luitje Dec 21, 2010 8:19 am

Aeroflot has just announced it will operate two repatriation flights out of Stanstead today using IL9 metal: SU246 and SU581. these flights would normally operate from LHR, but with current issues at this airport SU has made a decision to use other London airports to bring stranded Russian travellers back home.

luitje Dec 21, 2010 8:24 am


Originally Posted by openflync (Post 15492356)
Having flown TATL on the Il62 in the early 90's, I would not want to repeat that experience as well.

I completely understand why, but do you realize IL6 is a completely different type? IL6 is more like B737 (narrow body mid-range), while IL9 is rather like B767 (widebody longhaul).
I did not know SU operated IL6 transatlantic. Was it one of the infamous flights via SNN?

openflync Dec 21, 2010 8:48 am


Originally Posted by luitje (Post 15495459)
I completely understand why, but do you realize IL6 is a completely different type? IL6 is more like B737 (narrow body mid-range), while IL9 is rather like B767 (widebody longhaul).
I did not know SU operated IL6 transatlantic. Was it one of the infamous flights via SNN?

It was actualy on CSA with no tech stops.

I would compare the IL6 more to the 707/DC8. My favorite parts were alwaus watching them go to the back with the plastic hose to manualy rebalance the fuel after take off.

I agree that the IL9 is of a different generation especialy with the Western engines.

whiskey_sk Dec 22, 2010 5:00 am


Originally Posted by luitje (Post 15495459)
I completely understand why, but do you realize IL6 is a completely different type? IL6 is more like B737 (narrow body mid-range), while IL9 is rather like B767 (widebody longhaul).
I did not know SU operated IL6 transatlantic. Was it one of the infamous flights via SNN?

If you can make a fully loaded 737 to fly about 9-10.000km nonstop and you omit the fact that IL6 has got MTOW of over 160 tons, then you're right, IL6 is like 737 ;)

openflync Dec 22, 2010 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by whiskey_sk (Post 15502100)
If you can make a fully loaded 737 to fly about 9-10.000km nonstop and you omit the fact that IL6 has got MTOW of over 160 tons, then you're right, IL6 is like 737 ;)

With a spare set of engines under thos wings;)


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