Drivers encouraging private cash transactions.

Old Aug 8, 19, 10:27 pm
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Drivers encouraging private cash transactions.

Due to recent back problems, I have been unable to drive. Thus, am dependent on Uber/Lyft. I have noticed that more and more, drivers are encouraging me to contact them directly for rides. What is not explicit, but understood, is that this will be a cash transaction. Is this common?
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Old Aug 8, 19, 11:46 pm
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I would not say this is a surprise.
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Old Aug 9, 19, 6:28 am
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I have gotten a ride within the app and then handed a business card and told to call the driver directly for a return trip if before X o'clock. Haven't done it yet.
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Old Aug 9, 19, 6:40 am
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Yes, it is common. No different than traditional car services where drivers cut out the middleman.

It may violate the services' T&C for the drivers, but from the customer perspective it may be preferable (or not). Entirely up to you. Note that it does likely mean paying cash at a negotiated rate and that you won't have any of the insurance or other protections afforded by the services' umbrella policies. In a major city where a 3-4 minute wait for a car seems average, it seems odd. Perhaps more useful in a rural area.
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I've never encountered this yet. I did encounter a driver telling me that he had passengers who wanted to book him specifically in future, but he explained to them that the system didn't allow for that (you get who you get).
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Old Aug 9, 19, 11:34 am
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Doesn’t happen (well hasn’t happened to me) here in the U.K. But here Uber is far more of a formalised, properly licensed and regulated taxi service (albeit with an end to end user experience that is killing rivals). Come to think of it, never happened in Paris or Kampala either.
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Old Aug 9, 19, 5:20 pm
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Common in rural/suburban areas, unheard of in big cities.

Well - actually, once in NYC, a Lyft driver pitched me on Juno and gave me his referral code. But Juno is above board. I wouldn't do private cash transactions, but I know others are comfortable with it, save money, and have a reliably good driver each time.
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Over the last few years, I've ended up with a couple of Lyft drivers who were really good, and who were local to me. We then arranged going forward to simply call/text when I needed a ride and if they were available they would do it. With the latest, we settled on a home-to airport rate of about 2/3 of what Lyft typically charges, which still gives him more than he would retain if it were a Lyft ride.
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Old Aug 9, 19, 6:34 pm
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If you're paying cash directly to the driver, isn't that just an (unlicensed) taxi service?
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Old Aug 9, 19, 6:37 pm
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Makes sense. Grubhub and delivery companies are stealing business from stores (buying their website, putting out phone numbers that go through them and aren't actually the stores so they can charge them a cut), I guess drivers think they better get in on the action too.
Anything illegal about it?
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Anything illegal? Just what the poster before you suggested. if this is considered to be an unlicensed taxi service I'd be concerned at the implications... particularly liability insurance.
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Old Aug 10, 19, 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by rickg523 View Post
If you're paying cash directly to the driver, isn't that just an (unlicensed) taxi service?
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Anything illegal? Just what the poster before you suggested. if this is considered to be an unlicensed taxi service I'd be concerned at the implications... particularly liability insurance.
Yes - it is illegal. So?

(Note - in many times, legality is not a factor of decision-making...)
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Old Aug 10, 19, 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by davie355 View Post
Common in rural/suburban areas, unheard of in big cities.

Well - actually, once in NYC, a Lyft driver pitched me on Juno and gave me his referral code. But Juno is above board. I wouldn't do private cash transactions, but I know others are comfortable with it, save money, and have a reliably good driver each time.
Same.

​​​​Juno is not cash transactions, however; just another ride sharing service.
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Old Aug 10, 19, 2:18 pm
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Anything illegal? Just what the poster before you suggested. if this is considered to be an unlicensed taxi service I'd be concerned at the implications... particularly liability insurance.
And Uber was an unlicensed taxi service before too. It was definitely illegal.
What you mean is that the drivers won't have enough insurance to cover something major, while Uber does have deep pockets, and sometimes pays out. But that's the same for everything. We all know Uber doesn't make you safer, and there are many reports of Uber drivers killing/raping people.

My question is why you want to support an organization that is obviously a "bad actor"?
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Old Aug 10, 19, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by garykung View Post
Yes - it is illegal. So?

(Note - in many times, legality is not a factor of decision-making...)
Well in the situation cited here, you're essentially just paying a friend for a ride. But outside of Penn Station, you hopping in any old gypsy cab to save a few bucks?

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