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Restaurants restricting awards (airlines, credit card, etc. restrictions list)

Old Mar 23, 07, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by MikeInMass
Hmm, Wu Chon House does not seem to be listed at all in either the AA or NW program, which are the only two I'm enrolled in. Which program did you spot them in, and are they still participating? (I live on the hill above Union Square and like their bibimbap.)
By any chance are you "engaged" (or whatever it's called - 3/$), and not "elite" (10/$)?

I have found some restaurants are listed when you're elite, but not listed when you're engged. Previoulsy, a restaurant was listed on my UA account (where I was elite), but not on my US account (where I was engaged). But as soon as I became elite, it showed up on my US account!

The same thing is currently happening. A restaurant is on my UA account (elite), but not on my CO account (engaged). So this may be the same thing.
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Old Mar 23, 07, 10:54 am
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I'd be interested in knowing if there are any Elite restaurants in 37128 or 15 miles within.... we've got about 7 on the list, none I frequent often and only one that can really accumulate any points. I'm only a few transactions from Elite (hopefully my Chicago trip this week will fix that)
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Old Mar 23, 07, 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by majikTib
I'd be interested in knowing if there are any Elite restaurants in 37128 or 15 miles within.... we've got about 7 on the list, none I frequent often and only one that can really accumulate any points. I'm only a few transactions from Elite (hopefully my Chicago trip this week will fix that)
The search I came up with on my AA RN account showed seven restuarants as well, so it doesn't look like there are any elite-only joints there.

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Old Mar 23, 07, 11:13 am
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OK, I think this is a good idea - a sticky (this re-titled thread) we can include restrictions we are aware of (airlines, program restrictions, credit card prohibitions, etc.) Maybe we can also add any prohibitions we are aware of to gardener's master thread on iDine restos; I'll add those to my SMF listings, as one only allows one dine per month, and at least one will award no miles on AMEX cards. (Daphne's only allowed one dine per month per property, iirc, but they are gone now, so...)

Thanks for the good idea, NJUP and PS...
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Old Mar 23, 07, 12:45 pm
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A kudo for our moderator!

Truly appreciate your setting up this sticky so promptly!

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Old Mar 23, 07, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by the_traveler
By any chance are you "engaged" (or whatever it's called - 3/$), and not "elite" (10/$)?
Yep, I think you hit the nail on the head. Interesting.
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Old Mar 23, 07, 3:35 pm
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"cash"

This is not exactly a restriction, but it has essentially the same result.

Solar Cafe in Washington DC is a place I frequent. And without exception I've had to follow up to get miles to post. Come to find out: somehow they are processing CC transactions as cash transactions, which does two things. One, iDine will not capture it. Two, your receipt is useless because it says "cash." I've had to fax in redacted CC statements to get credit.
Hardly worth it for the small amounts of a lunch counter, but if I'm going there anyway I might as well get miles for it.

Edit: never responded to Points Scounger's question in the next post.
Yes, Solar runs my CC through the CC machine. Yes, they provide a customer copy slip, as well as a merchant copy for me to sign. Yes, my CC is charged. But the slip says it is a cash transaction. And finally: yes I have stopped going to Solar Cafe.

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Old Mar 23, 07, 3:54 pm
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You don't get an actual customer copy slip @ Solar? Either they run it through the cc machine or they don't? It got as far as your credit card statement. Sounds to me more like they have a non-iDine merchant account to bypass repaying their loan.
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Old Mar 31, 07, 9:48 am
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Originally Posted by ZeppoX
This is not exactly a restriction, but it has essentially the same result.

Solar Cafe in Washington DC is a place I frequent. And without exception I've had to follow up to get miles to post. Come to find out: somehow they are processing CC transactions as cash transactions, which does two things. One, iDine will not capture it. Two, your receipt is useless because it says "cash." I've had to fax in redacted CC statements to get credit.
Hardly worth it for the small amounts of a lunch counter, but if I'm going there anyway I might as well get miles for it.
You know I had the same problem with the Solar Cafe folks a year ago. Called several times on it and then IDINE told me that the person, who had handled my call had left, etc. Not even sure if it got posted, as I just moved on and forgot about it. Think they had a promition at that time like dine x amount of times and to grab a sandwich rhere was a good idea.
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Old Mar 31, 07, 7:01 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeInMass
In order to make this post of more general interest, any opinions as to which program seems to have the most restaurants participating?
No such thing.

When programs differ by number of restaurants, it's typically in some particular city, eg, AS in Seattle (AS's home base). So nationally the difference between airlines is very small, tho in each airline's home base (or hub) cities it may be bigger.

Then, as evidenced in this thread, any program you're "elite" in has more restaurants than any program you're not yet "elite" in. Thus it varies for each person.

Finally, no airline or "elite" program really gets "more" restuarants. There's a maximum pie, and most airlines in most cities make all those restuarants available to "elite" members. Particular airlines in particular cities subtract from that, either for all or just non-"elite" members. And then RN itself may subtract from that from non-"elite" members (across all airlines).

So the answer is that in most areas "elite" members see exactly the same list for each airline most of the time. The exceptions are just that, exceptions.
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Old Apr 25, 07, 1:28 pm
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Shogun (a sushi place) in Stockton, CA also doesn't give credits on AMEX card. Just noticed this today, missed ~350 miles. Oh, well, no big deal.
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Old Apr 28, 07, 3:55 pm
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Curiouser and curiouser

As of a few minutes ago, the AS elite dining list for Seattle matches my other elite lists exactly!
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Old May 12, 07, 12:48 pm
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Related, if not exactly "restricted"

The Blue Mahoe (Jamaician fare) in NYC processed my tip separately from the base charges. I had just over $15 for AA promo without it, but it seemed to be a standard procedure for them (avoid declaring "wages" if run through as food?). Mentioning this in case anyone tried to use them for a minimum tab promotion.
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Old May 23, 07, 9:05 am
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Contact American Express

Originally Posted by PatFlyer
I was just told by idine that although the restaurant I go to is part of idine, it will not give points if an amex card is used - even if that amex card is one of my registered cards on idine.

I was also told that if I went to the "details" for that restaurant, I would see that.

The details page says "credit cards accepted" and does not list Amex.

Okay, I assumed that was because the restaurant didn't accept the Amex card at all....which was the case up to a few months ago when the restaurant stated accepting Amex and I started using it.

Have you heard of not accepting certain credit cards for idine purposes only?

Thanks.

Mrs.P

Many people are not aware that merchants must follow certain rules in order to be able to accept credit cards. For instance Visa and Mastercard both prohibit requiring a minimum purchase, or requesting to see ID - the two most commonly broken of the merchant agreement clauses. American Express does not have this requirement but has a non-discrimination clause which states that American Express customers must receive equal treatment as Visa and Mastercard customers. So a business which accepts only American Express could set a minimum but one that accepts Visa must treat American Express on par with Visa.

Therefore, your restaurant is violating its merchant agreement with American Express because it is discriminating against their card. If you have used your card there previously, you have the restaurant's merchant number so it should be relatively easy to complain to American Express. Merchants who consistently violate the policy can have their right to accept the card rescinded.
http://www.gofso.com/Premium/LE/06_l...merchants.html
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Old May 23, 07, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by colin1211
Many people are not aware that merchants must follow certain rules in order to be able to accept credit cards. For instance Visa and Mastercard both prohibit requiring a minimum purchase, or requesting to see ID - the two most commonly broken of the merchant agreement clauses. http://www.gofso.com/Premium/LE/06_l...merchants.html
I always find the assertion about a prohibition on requesting ID curious because the credit card processor for my wife's merchant account recommends checking ID. Her merchant contract is silent on the topic.
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