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If you even once select "miles" instead of "points," CC converts your entire balance!

If you even once select "miles" instead of "points," CC converts your entire balance!

Old Feb 1, 14, 9:13 am
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If you even once select "miles" instead of "points," CC converts your entire balance!

And it's irreversible! Though perhaps you can switch back for future earnings; not 100% clear.

Apologies if this has been noted before, but I could not find it in a search and it's quite important to know about Club Carlson.

From "My Profile" page:

"Important Information: When you select Miles as your earning preference your entire balance of Gold Points and all future Gold Points earned will automatically convert to Miles with the airline you have selected in 10,000 point increments. Miles can not be converted back to Gold Points. All miles with this auto conversion option will be redeemed at an 10:1 ratio."

Emphasis mine.

I have never heard of a rule so harsh in any loyalty program. Be very careful of this one.

Watch out especially if you get an attractive "miles" offer, as they might be trying to convert a lot of people unawares.

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Old Feb 1, 14, 1:49 pm
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Thanks for the heads-up! One way around it is to make dummy reservations to hold your existing points, or those U want to keep as points.
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Old Feb 2, 14, 10:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
Thanks for the heads-up! One way around it is to make dummy reservations to hold your existing points, or those U want to keep as points.
or just open another acct. for miles earning
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Old Feb 3, 14, 12:16 am
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Or just use the points-to-miles transfer option. You can transfer as few as 2K CC points for 200 FF miles.
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Old Feb 3, 14, 6:19 am
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That is not true. In the past I selected miles. And then yes, as soon as you hit the minimum level all your points were converted into my chosen miles program. But then I decided to switch to points and they stopped converting the to miles and now I've collected a decent amount of points. So you can switch back and forth - but as soon as you switch to miles they will convert them immediately (and going forward) unless you switch back to points.
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Old Feb 3, 14, 1:56 pm
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Thanks for heads up
This is messed up - i wouldn't want to find a few hundred K worth of points disappear because of a single stay switch.
What if some FD agent accidentally clicks miles???... Is there any way to block this nonsense?
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Old Feb 3, 14, 3:39 pm
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Is there any way to block this nonsense?
Make sure they don't know your FFP account number
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Old Feb 3, 14, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by azepine00 View Post
Thanks for heads up
This is messed up - i wouldn't want to find a few hundred K worth of points disappear because of a single stay switch.
What if some FD agent accidentally clicks miles???... Is there any way to block this nonsense?
I don't believe FD agents can choose your preference. You set that preference online or via the call center.
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Old Feb 18, 14, 5:36 pm
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Pure evil

In other words, a trap. Especially following the recent devaluation of the conversion program. No other frequent guest program does this. HHonors is the best example of offering and touting the easy change in earning preference back and forth. Would that this were a glitch in the system, in which case it could be fixed fairly easily. If it's not, then it's part of the business plan. Thank you for bringing this up, toomanybooks.
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Old Feb 20, 14, 7:15 am
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Here is a portion of an email today from Southwest. I almost went for it until I remembered this thread. Thanks for the heads-up.


Earn triple Rapid Rewards® Points on every eligible stay at a Country Inns & Suites By CarlsonSM hotel in the U.S. through April 30, 2014. With triple points, you'll earn 1,800 points instead of the standard 600 points you normally earn per eligible stay.

At Country Inns & Suites, you'll discover complimentary hot breakfast, free high-speed Internet, and employees who make your stay smooth and comfortable, no matter where your travels take you. Start earning triple points by booking your next stay at one of many exciting Country Inns & Suites locations.
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Old Feb 20, 14, 7:44 am
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Yep, I am posting a warning in the WN forum.

They are going to try to trick people into losing their points.

Originally Posted by carraher View Post
Here is a portion of an email today from Southwest. I almost went for it until I remembered this thread. Thanks for the heads-up.


Earn triple Rapid Rewards® Points on every eligible stay at a Country Inns & Suites By CarlsonSM hotel in the U.S. through April 30, 2014. With triple points, you'll earn 1,800 points instead of the standard 600 points you normally earn per eligible stay.

At Country Inns & Suites, you'll discover complimentary hot breakfast, free high-speed Internet, and employees who make your stay smooth and comfortable, no matter where your travels take you. Start earning triple points by booking your next stay at one of many exciting Country Inns & Suites locations.
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Old Oct 6, 14, 9:27 pm
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Holy Crap. I just saw this b/c of the 7500 AA for 2 stays promo.

Hey Mods - Can we make this a sticky or something so that everyone knows

^^^ to TMB - nice (horrible) catch

Cheers

Originally Posted by toomanybooks View Post
And it's irreversible! Though perhaps you can switch back for future earnings; not 100% clear.

Apologies if this has been noted before, but I could not find it in a search and it's quite important to know about Club Carlson.

From "My Profile" page:

"Important Information: When you select Miles as your earning preference your entire balance of Gold Points and all future Gold Points earned will automatically convert to Miles with the airline you have selected in 10,000 point increments. Miles can not be converted back to Gold Points. All miles with this auto conversion option will be redeemed at an 10:1 ratio."

Emphasis mine.

I have never heard of a rule so harsh in any loyalty program. Be very careful of this one.

Watch out especially if you get an attractive "miles" offer, as they might be trying to convert a lot of people unawares.
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Old Oct 7, 14, 5:02 am
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Originally Posted by thegrailer View Post
Holy Crap. I just saw this b/c of the 7500 AA for 2 stays promo.

Hey Mods - Can we make this a sticky or something so that everyone knows

^^^ to TMB - nice (horrible) catch

Cheers
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/carls...ut-beware.html
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Old Oct 8, 14, 6:04 am
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But is it not the case that in the AA/AC promotions you are registering for a bonus not selecting miles as your earning preference. Equally I don't see anything too draconian compared to pretty much every other mileage/stay program that seem to all have a clause that states that the transfer is unable to be reversed.
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Old Oct 8, 14, 8:34 am
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Relying on the "7,500" thread, where it seems to remain up in the air as to whether earning the 7,500 would permanently convert one's account to miles, I was just on the verge of biting with a family member's small Carlson points account. But reminded of the focus that toomanybooks gave the explicit t&c above, I will wait. But dayam, that 7,500 is tempting.
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